UPS DC-8's Parked end of May
04-23-2009, 07:18 AM
#2
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: 109% IPA
Posts: 159
A page from UPS management playbook
1. Park DC8's
2. Reject IPA's offer either today or tomorrow after 5pm eastern
3. Realign/Displace/Furlough bid out in 2-3 weeks close June 1st
4. Furlough notices arrive June 1st
5. IPA opentime/JA ban/sick calls (No problem FLT Qual Mngrs)
6. UPS delays 767's deliveries
7. UPS trains furloughees replacements this summer
8. Stock price goes up when they announce furloughs
9. September 2009 start furloughing 300
10. Summer 2010 hire flight qualified managers to meet needs peak 2010
2. Reject IPA's offer either today or tomorrow after 5pm eastern
3. Realign/Displace/Furlough bid out in 2-3 weeks close June 1st
4. Furlough notices arrive June 1st
5. IPA opentime/JA ban/sick calls (No problem FLT Qual Mngrs)
6. UPS delays 767's deliveries
7. UPS trains furloughees replacements this summer
8. Stock price goes up when they announce furloughs
9. September 2009 start furloughing 300
10. Summer 2010 hire flight qualified managers to meet needs peak 2010
04-23-2009, 09:35 AM
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I think that I read somewhere there were 270 on the 8. With about 40 over 65, that leaves 230 to furlough from the bottom. I hope that I'm wrong, but I don't think so. What does "inactive" mean for the 65+ crowd?
04-23-2009, 10:21 AM
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We're about to see if the IPA is worth anything. If they furlough, but keep all of the 2005-2006 newhire managers then look for a lot of screaming. If the IPA can't stop the hiring of more flt qualified managers than what good is the IPA?
04-23-2009, 11:22 AM
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Position: UPS Captain
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I think it is a good idea to focus on the managers instead of each other!
Lets see. 727 retired. No management reduction. 747 (classic) retired. No management reduction. DC-8 retired (Lets see if there is any management reduction). Dont even get me started on the "FE Managers" we have!!!
My understanding of UPS's interpertation of the law is the "Managers" Manage. They DO NOT FLY THE LINE! If this becomes the case would that not lead to some sort of legal action?
Could they even hire managers with furloughed pilots on the street?
Thoughts?
Lets see. 727 retired. No management reduction. 747 (classic) retired. No management reduction. DC-8 retired (Lets see if there is any management reduction). Dont even get me started on the "FE Managers" we have!!!
My understanding of UPS's interpertation of the law is the "Managers" Manage. They DO NOT FLY THE LINE! If this becomes the case would that not lead to some sort of legal action?
Could they even hire managers with furloughed pilots on the street?
Thoughts?
04-23-2009, 11:23 AM
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: B747-400, Gear-Yanker
Posts: 23
Hmmmm. $401 million profit for the 1st quarter + $200m in stock buyback and $181m "special charge" for parking the Ocho = $786m actual revenue, vs. 902m for 1st quarter last year when the world economy was roughly 40% larger... a mere 14% decrease as opposed to the company press release of 55% loss in revenue. All stock-holders please vote your proxies against the executive 750% bonus plan and remind these pig#$%'s where they can stick it while we hit the street.
Feelin' the love. Back to the job search...
Feelin' the love. Back to the job search...
04-23-2009, 11:58 AM
#9
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Posts: 653
I agree with the sentiment that folks should be upset if UPS decides to keep all the non union pilots.
04-23-2009, 04:44 PM
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Position: -400 CAPT
Posts: 483
Managers will be let go, no doubt about it in my estimation. Too many fleets are now gone with the -8 announcement. Morale will be in the tank with the upcoming f announcement, it's a pity.
No waivers or favors from this IPA'er.
Oh, and I'm already preparing for a downgrade by 2010 or 2011. This is going to get ugly, fella's...
No waivers or favors from this IPA'er.
Oh, and I'm already preparing for a downgrade by 2010 or 2011. This is going to get ugly, fella's...
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