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Old 04-21-2009, 02:30 PM
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Collapse of DHL deal quickens exit of UPS DC-8s

DATE:21/04/09
SOURCE:Air Transport Intelligence news
Collapse of DHL deal quickens exit of UPS DC-8s
By Lori Ranson

Stalled talks and the likely dissolution of an agreement with DHL is forcing UPS to look at shedding its 44 DC-8s before the original 2013 exit date.

During a speech at the MRO Americas today UPS President Bob Lekites said UPS has 44 of the aircraft on its certificate, but only operates four.

Lekites says UPS was saving the remaing DC8s for potential DHL flying.

While DHL is signaling the deal is off, Likites says UPS has not made a formal announcement.

"We would have liked to do business with them but it looks like they are going out on their own," he says.

As a result, Likites says UPS is "likely to do something sooner" with the aircraft than 2013.
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Parking the 8 will still be after peak.
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That report makes no sense at all. UPS and DHL both put out formal announcements stating that they have terminated talks and there would be no deal between DHL/UPS.
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That report makes no sense at all. UPS and DHL both put out formal announcements stating that they have terminated talks and there would be no deal between DHL/UPS.
Agreed. That reporter really needs to fact check what she writes. The article below has been on the UPS website for 4 days.

UPS, DHL end talks over airlift agreement
By HARRY R. WEBER – 4 days ago

ATLANTA (AP) — UPS Inc. said Friday that talks with DHL about carrying some of its air packages have ended, scuttling a venture that originally was expected to generate up to $1 billion in annual revenue for the world's largest shipping carrier.

Spokesman Norman Black told The Associated Press that the two companies agreed to terminate their negotiations. He did not elaborate.

But the move was expected by many analysts after DHL decided that it would no longer offer U.S. domestic-only air and ground services.

Although it had said its international shipping to and from the U.S. would continue, the cutbacks in its U.S. operations meant that any deal with UPS would have been greatly scaled back.

"We have not been able to come to a conclusive agreement that is acceptable to both parties," DHL said in a statement.

DHL spokesman Jonathan Baker said that for now his company will continue to use its existing providers, principally ABX Air and ASTAR Air Cargo, to provide the airlift services UPS had wanted to take over. Baker declined to discuss any potential agreements with other providers.

UPS shares fell $1.61, or 2.9 percent, to $54.31 in afternoon trading.

The venture as originally envisioned was expected to last up to 10 years. Atlanta-based UPS, also known as United Parcel Service, had said the contract with DHL would mostly involve the transport of DHL packages between airports in North America — not the pickup or delivery of DHL packages to customers.

When the talks were announced last May, DHL said it expected to finalize a contract by the end of 2008. However, in November DHL, hit by heavy losses and fierce competition, said that as of Jan. 30 it would significantly reduce its air and ground operations in the U.S. It also said it would cut 9,500 American jobs.

Prior to the move, DHL's total air volume for shipments from points between U.S. and international destinations and between points within the U.S. was about 1.2 million shipments a day. That figure was expected to drop to about 100,000 shipments a day after the changes went through, DHL's parent, Germany's Deutsche Post AG, has said. The air volume figures do not include packages that do not start or end in the U.S.

DHL has tried to be a major player in the U.S. since it bought Airborne Inc.'s ground delivery network for $1.05 billion in 2003, but it has lagged in the air and ground markets combined, analysts have said.

Earlier Friday, DHL said it has decided to move U.S. hub operations for its international business from Wilmington, Ohio, to the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport to save money.

DHL will reactivate its automated sorting facility at the northern Kentucky airport and finish moving there by mid- to late summer.

At last count, there were about 5,000 people still working at the Wilmington airport, down from about 8,000 a year ago.

DHL owns the cargo airport in Wilmington and hasn't announced what it plans to do with it.

UPS, which recorded 2008 revenue of $51.5 billion, is scheduled to report its first-quarter 2009 earnings next Thursday.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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The good news is when the 8 is gone so are all the over 65 geezers! Now you can find them greeting customers at Walmart!
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What it means is that when they dump the 8, there will be a few off of the top and the bottom.
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I can see it now (picture Walter) "Welcome to Walmart....get your $$#@ and get out!"
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Originally Posted by sfergson727
I can see it now (picture Walter) "Welcome to Walmart....get your $$#@ and get out!"
Assuming we're talking about the same nimrod (and that's a kind term) he got a window seat and now books every priority 7 to and from ANC everyday.
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Originally Posted by FR8TFLYER
The good news is when the 8 is gone so are all the over 65 geezers! Now you can find them greeting customers at Walmart!
you are happy? that folks will be out of a job?
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Over 65, yes I am very happy they will be out of a job. Should have been a long time ago!
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