UPS - Bye bye DC-8s?
04-22-2009, 04:33 PM
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04-22-2009, 04:45 PM
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Just curious where in the world would a possible furloughee be saying that about an over 60 guy? And exactly what would it be about? According to my recollection the over 60 crowd are not suffering since the law changed? They are not going to have to "Deal with it"
04-22-2009, 04:51 PM
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They are using these pilots jobs as hostage to get contract concessions, which is just scummy.[/quote]
Yep and after we are furloughed in September UPS is going to keep us hostage until Contract 2012 is negotiated. This is why many of us future furloughees fear a very long furlough 3-5 years.
Yep and after we are furloughed in September UPS is going to keep us hostage until Contract 2012 is negotiated. This is why many of us future furloughees fear a very long furlough 3-5 years.
04-22-2009, 04:56 PM
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757upspilot, there will always be the few who vocally express their opinions in such a manner that will drive wedges between groups who are not of the same opinion. Regardless of how some feel, posting comments such as these do more damage than good. It is a relief that when flying, most of our fellow IPA members, both old and young - junior and senior, don't have those same sentiments - the majority here have respect for one another and conduct themselves in a professional manner. The ones who continue to beat the same drum at every opportunity won't be swayed, so it serves no purpose. As I have posted before, you are going to have a few in every group that reflect poorly on the whole - I myself won't fault them as to the manner they express their opinions - young or old -
04-22-2009, 04:57 PM
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Very hard to like the junior guy with that attitude, many of us are taking note.[/quote]
Nice threat which does not help or add anything good to the situation. Most future furloughees have misguided anger and are looking for someone to blame as well as UPS. Once the furloughs start most will then misguide their anger at the IPA. Just ask many of the 300 about their experience with ALPA during their furloughs at other airlines before UPS. IMHO
Nice threat which does not help or add anything good to the situation. Most future furloughees have misguided anger and are looking for someone to blame as well as UPS. Once the furloughs start most will then misguide their anger at the IPA. Just ask many of the 300 about their experience with ALPA during their furloughs at other airlines before UPS. IMHO
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04-22-2009, 04:57 PM
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I have 101 who have upgraded or been given a class date, of which four (4) turn 65 this year. Seventeen (17) more received bid awards but are on long-term medicals or EB member. Four (4) more received bid awards who then retired. Manpower planning takes into account those on medicals when they come up with their vacancy bid numbers.
04-22-2009, 05:00 PM
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Nice threat which does not help or add anything good to the situation. Most future furloughees have misguided anger and are looking for someone to blame as well as UPS. Once the furloughs start most will then misguide their anger at the IPA. History of furloughs 101. IMHO[/quote]
Its not a threat, just a statement that they don't function in a vacum and usually one action has a reaction.
04-22-2009, 05:02 PM
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04-22-2009, 05:05 PM
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[/quote]Possible , not probable. There won't be any concessions in 2012 either.
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