Home planet of the MEM Crews in Gucci BLDG??
04-20-2009, 02:04 AM
#21
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: DC10 Captain
Posts: 284
I really don't recall one post from any of them. You may be the only one. I trust that you pointed out the potential pitfalls to the committee during last negotiations.
No pictures here - hope you can read between the lines. If you're really trying to create more divisiveness, not sure why you think it will be helpful.......
04-20-2009, 07:01 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,931
Hmmm. So, where are those folks, exactly, who fully realized the impact, and voted for it anyway. Was the pay reduction simply acceptable to this group, or did they just think it would not happen? How about the "regulated age" wording - same position taken by these guys?
I know a few folks who are happy to keep the junior pilots on the property with 4a2b. That is a truly great group. But I know a person or three that couldn't be bothered to discuss the facts on the HKG LOA but liked it anyway and are now very unhappy with 4a2b. Many are honest enough to express their desire to furlough to raise their pay. Don't get me wrong, I don't think they should be made to endure this cut in hours. They don't deserve to be penalized. But when you are focused only raising the pay for your own interest group (Yourself?), many important ares of compensation are overlooked. Make no mistake, no negotiating capital was deemed worthy to expend on a multitude of items in the last contract and HKG LOA. We are now paying for that shortsightedness.
I won't address the regulated age thing. I don't put it in the same arena as the HKG LOA. The HKG LOA should have been worked on with more effort, should not have gone out to the pilot group, should not have been sold so hard and should not have been voted in. I believe the above went horribly wrong because "we" were attempting to deliver a cost effective FDA LOA for 777 pay rates.
Scott Stratton for MEC Chair!
Last edited by Gunter; 04-20-2009 at 08:28 AM.
04-20-2009, 06:17 PM
#26
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: MD11 Left
Posts: 62
Skypine,
THAT was hilarious. No doubt, the Gucci guys are in a world of their own, stroking for command, maxing out on support, working on their 15th year. I should be more PC. Shall we say, they live a comfortable, well insulated life albeit a wee bit out of touch.
THAT was hilarious. No doubt, the Gucci guys are in a world of their own, stroking for command, maxing out on support, working on their 15th year. I should be more PC. Shall we say, they live a comfortable, well insulated life albeit a wee bit out of touch.
Last edited by Blackbeard; 04-20-2009 at 06:20 PM. Reason: forgot to address
04-22-2009, 02:54 PM
#28
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: Slumping Bus Driver
Posts: 72
04-22-2009, 03:06 PM
#30
"blue collar thug"!
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: A proponent of...
Posts: 1,614
Ok, I'll 'fess up. I voted for it, as a selfish pilot. I asked my Chinese/American FO I flew with what she thought, she said it was "okay." Since I had no intention of ever bidding HKG, even if it gave me a free house and and double wide-body Captain pay, I took her word( and our negotiators). Sorry for the pain I've caused, I'll be AOC tonight if you want to meet a doofus who ruined your world.
Have fun in the AOC!
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