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Old 04-18-2009, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by iarapilot
Couldnt agree more. If that is happening, the crews need to refuse the GT.
Up to the opening of CAN I thought it was routine to GT the RFO's from HKG to SZX?? In defense of anyone who accepted the GT to CAN (I was not in HKG recently) I'm totally unaware of the issue. Maybe I should read the contract someday.
I thought the issue with GT from HKG/SZX was whether the RFO was to wear his uniform or not, maybe a chop letter or some Chinese border issue - not the contract.
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Old 04-18-2009, 12:46 PM
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I've done the HKG to SZX ground trans (as an ANC -11 RFO), and like you sad, it is/was routine. However, it's less than 2:00, so its legal per the CBA. The HKG to CAN is greater than 2:00, and thus requires CBA relief, in the form of our FDA LOA, which only applies to FDA crews.

By the way, you do NOT have to wear your uniform. I did not wear the uniform, nor even carry a China chop letter. Showing my passport (didn't even show a gendec) was enough.
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Old 04-18-2009, 01:20 PM
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HKG-SZX...HKG-CAN? Honest mistake. You know how they all look the same.
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Old 04-18-2009, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
HKG-SZX...HKG-CAN? Honest mistake. You know how they all look the same.
Just sounds like my 18 month old grandson banging on the pots and pans to me.....
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Old 04-18-2009, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MEMA300
The point is we were barely able to negotiate crumbs during the last two rounds with a great economy...
Now, why do you think that was? Wouldn't have anything to do with a crewforce that thought bag tags and stickers were enough to back up our NC, would it?

I heard about a guy that signed up for an informational picketing event, and then no-showed because he took a draft trip.
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Old 04-18-2009, 03:28 PM
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FWIW,
Reference for the HKG/CAN GT.
The 2 hour limit for GT is found in section 8 b.1.b

b. Surface transportation greater than 2 hours must be approved by the SIG.

Amazing the stuff in that contract.

At least now I'll have a reference before speaking up.


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Old 04-18-2009, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 990Convair
On another note, I have been called 8....EIGHT times for draft in the left seat of the MD in the past 2 months.

All the while RLG's/BLG's are at historic lows, in direct violation of our CBA.

There is NO checks a balances. Mark my words, the company will keep these BLGs where they are unless we win the grievance. All additional flying will be thrown to the sharks as draft. And as hungry as we are, the company knows we'll oblige.

We need to stop this non-sense. Big picture people!
Isn't that the Vice-Chairman candidate from ANC with 150 CH on his Apr line? Even going to miss being present for the election. Does he really want this job???
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Old 04-18-2009, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckwheat Jones
Isn't that the Vice-Chairman candidate from ANC with 150 CH on his Apr line? Even going to miss being present for the election. Does he really want this job???

What's your point or are you just trying to sling some mud?

The volcano has caused many flights to be revised and extended and even though we are "overmanned" it is next to impossible to drop a trip in ANC!

How many MEM bubbas had 150+ hour lines for April?
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Old 04-19-2009, 06:14 AM
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That really sums it all up. Widebody captains with 150 CH month and 3rd year 727 second officers with 58 CH. Compare those W-2's and then try to get them together on any issue. $35,700/mo vs. $5,100/mo. Lots of mutual interests there. Heavy sarcasm intended.

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Old 04-19-2009, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MEMA300
Section six openers should be a round of golf while management guys sit in office. We need to do exactly what fedex has done with all other negotiations, drag em out for as long as you can. We should spend at least two years, maybe three years negotiating waiting for an upturn in economy. The roles are now reversed.
Finally! A man with some sense.
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