SLPII

If you pay the right people the right amount of $$$. You can be top 10 in anything.

To Stay or Go

[QUOTE=mrvmo;595809]I was denied a few weeks ago, but am pursuing it further. I'd really like to take advantage of the current situation and get educated.

MD11Simnerd

To Stay or Go,

please see your PM

Tigerpilot1995

[QUOTE=To Stay or Go;596704]Pleeeeease refer to my post on the previous page.

To Stay or Go

Whatever. That is about the most selfish, self-serving thing. I'm not going to hinge my future on what is best for only you. My family and personal future are important than you. Besides the more above you that are out on a LOA the better for you.

Tigerpilot1995

Good lord, relax. I am not being selfish about this. This is exactly what the UNION is asking us to do. The company has their bargaining chips and we have ours. I am with you about taking care of number one. I have started another business and UPS is already getting in the way. I am contemplating taking a leave myself. I was just saying that asking the company directly for leaves at this second could be undermining what the union is trying to do for the collective whole. We both know the company is half full of it in this threat but it doesn't mean that we don't have to fight them together.

Also, I find it quite amusing that you accuse me of being selfish and self-serving. The words of your post show who is the selfish one.

Fraternally,
TP
100% IPA

Waborita

"Hey bud what's your problem?" in my best Jeff Spicoli voice

Looks like we have another IPA= Individual Pilot Association member

Bottom 100
100% IPA

Squeegee man

Are you that guy selling Amway stuff on the bar and grill?

Tigerpilot1995

um, no.....

SaltyDog

TSOG,
Problem with internet posts.<g>
TP is a standup IPA crewmember who is definitely not selfish based on IPA foundation participation at Kosairs and some other things I know about TP.

Think perhaps lost in the TP condensed post is the summary line: Acting in unison is more effective than independent action. We all know this though.


Analogy: OT/JA pickups. Everyone has an opinion. However from a union point of view the 'opinion' that is expressed to the employer must be the same, and it must come from the elected leadership. Period. They must stay within the confines of labor law and the CBA.

Independent action/opinion only confirms that a divided house is much easier to conquer and therefore the relentless attack on the contract/furlough threat is being effective.
The IPA is more effective conveying a message to UPS about our strength regarding OT/JA when used like a light switch. Overnight, it virtually all stops IAW with the CBA. It won't happen, always have a little trickle for whatever reason. However, the more than can be convinced to follow the light switch model the more strength the elected EB has with UPS and their credibilty. The credibility is vital. Reason will always support the EB because our credibilty is vital to moving UPS into positive territory on our behalf.
(Don't like EB decisions/vote in a new member, work internally to change direction, in house)
Personally, understand that folks have to get the irons in the fire now regarding next options for the family. It can take much more than 90 days or have other time constraints that don't follow the capriciousness of UPS timelines. However, as TP states, if any of us can add the benefit of the whole IPA into your personal planning, then that would be helpful to all of us, not just the junior 300.
Now and as importantly, in our future (i.e. 2012 CBA talks). If you can't, that is also a personal decision.
We can't all know the individual circumstances. Howevever, will always encourage the 'light switch' strength that we all play a part. We need you to get the long term best for all of us with UPS.