FDX-Decision Time
04-08-2009, 07:41 AM
#11
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Enos,
I know DS and he is not trying to "Dilute the Vote". He is running because he feels that it is time for a change. I know that most of the crew force works out of MEM but when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done then a a Bus driver out of MEM. To be fair, the Bus driver understands MEM hub turns better that an ANC guy will even know. I just think with all the problems that we have right now with the FDA we need someone from another base. IMHO
Noser
I know DS and he is not trying to "Dilute the Vote". He is running because he feels that it is time for a change. I know that most of the crew force works out of MEM but when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done then a a Bus driver out of MEM. To be fair, the Bus driver understands MEM hub turns better that an ANC guy will even know. I just think with all the problems that we have right now with the FDA we need someone from another base. IMHO
Noser
04-08-2009, 08:21 AM
#12
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[QUOTE=Enos Retires;592568]
I don't know what vast majority you are with but I think DS is by far the best choice for Vice Chairman.
2 weeks until the MEC officer elections. Do you know who your block rep supports? Have you emailed, called, talked with your block rep with your preferences? Have you demanded that they, as your elected representative, support the majority block opinion and make their choice publicly known?
Chairman: DM or SS?
Vice-Chairman: TH, TM, WR, or DS?
Sec-Treas: DC, JK, SM?
The vast majority of the crewforce thinks the choices are clear. Does your block rep? There should be a minimum of 4600 communications sent to the block reps in the next 10 days. Don't let backroom deals buy this election.
And for those lurkers out there who don't know who the vast majority is supporting, I'll help them out:
Chairman: SS
Vice chairman: TM
Sec-Treas: DC
The excrement has hit the circular wind machine and it's time for smart, effective leadership. We can't be satisfied with the 'experienced status quo'.
Chairman: DM or SS?
Vice-Chairman: TH, TM, WR, or DS?
Sec-Treas: DC, JK, SM?
The vast majority of the crewforce thinks the choices are clear. Does your block rep? There should be a minimum of 4600 communications sent to the block reps in the next 10 days. Don't let backroom deals buy this election.
And for those lurkers out there who don't know who the vast majority is supporting, I'll help them out:
Chairman: SS
Vice chairman: TM
Sec-Treas: DC
The excrement has hit the circular wind machine and it's time for smart, effective leadership. We can't be satisfied with the 'experienced status quo'.
04-08-2009, 08:25 AM
#13
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Enos,
I know DS and he is not trying to "Dilute the Vote". He is running because he feels that it is time for a change. I know that most of the crew force works out of MEM but when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done then a a Bus driver out of MEM. To be fair, the Bus driver understands MEM hub turns better that an ANC guy will even know. I just think with all the problems that we have right now with the FDA we need someone from another base. IMHO
Noser
I know DS and he is not trying to "Dilute the Vote". He is running because he feels that it is time for a change. I know that most of the crew force works out of MEM but when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done then a a Bus driver out of MEM. To be fair, the Bus driver understands MEM hub turns better that an ANC guy will even know. I just think with all the problems that we have right now with the FDA we need someone from another base. IMHO
Noser
Where is his campaign letter of introduction to the crewforce or MEC?
If "when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done than a a Bus driver out of MEM", how did your block rep vote or campaign for the FDA LOA? Were all dissenting 32% votes from ANC? How did DS vote? Was he vocal in his opposition to the FDA LOA?
Who does your block rep support for Chairman? Vice-Chairman? Sec-Treas?
04-08-2009, 08:28 AM
#14
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In case you fellas hadn't noticed, and before you start beating that "Reps from other domociles drum", let me point out that the sudden glut of new candidates relatively late in the campaign smells of an attempt to "dilute the vote", giving the incumbents a better chance of garnering enough votes to win. If the split is 1 vote either way, another domocile voting for it's candidate could well tip the scale if it is as tight as it seems. Carefully consider what you do here.
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04-08-2009, 09:00 AM
#15
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Enos,
I know DS and he is not trying to "Dilute the Vote". He is running because he feels that it is time for a change. I know that most of the crew force works out of MEM but when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done then a a Bus driver out of MEM. To be fair, the Bus driver understands MEM hub turns better that an ANC guy will even know. I just think with all the problems that we have right now with the FDA we need someone from another base. IMHO
Noser
I know DS and he is not trying to "Dilute the Vote". He is running because he feels that it is time for a change. I know that most of the crew force works out of MEM but when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done then a a Bus driver out of MEM. To be fair, the Bus driver understands MEM hub turns better that an ANC guy will even know. I just think with all the problems that we have right now with the FDA we need someone from another base. IMHO
Noser
04-08-2009, 09:06 AM
#16
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Okay, if DS is so concerned about ANC guys getting their proper representation, or if ANC guys feel disrespected or underrepresented by their elected officials, WHY did it take almost two months for DS to declare his candidacy? Does DS feel TM doesn't represent change from the DW/DM/WR cabal?
Where is his campaign letter of introduction to the crewforce or MEC?
If "when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done than a a Bus driver out of MEM", how did your block rep vote or campaign for the FDA LOA? Were all dissenting 32% votes from ANC? How did DS vote? Was he vocal in his opposition to the FDA LOA?
Who does your block rep support for Chairman? Vice-Chairman? Sec-Treas?
Where is his campaign letter of introduction to the crewforce or MEC?
If "when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done than a a Bus driver out of MEM", how did your block rep vote or campaign for the FDA LOA? Were all dissenting 32% votes from ANC? How did DS vote? Was he vocal in his opposition to the FDA LOA?
Who does your block rep support for Chairman? Vice-Chairman? Sec-Treas?
04-08-2009, 09:10 AM
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You are completely wrong in the case of DS. He had to wait and see what his lot in life was going to be with the excess bid before he could pull the trigger. DS is by far the most qualified candidate for Vice Chairman and it is a God send that he has thrown his hat into the ring. You need to "carefully consider what you write here" about people.
Sounds like the ANC mafia simply wants "our guy" and it only matters that he is ANC based.
04-08-2009, 09:52 AM
#18
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First, I'll say I like DS however, I don't think he is the right person at this critical junction for VC. I would challenge your statement that he "had to wait and see what his lot in life was going to be with the excess bid before he could pull the trigger". DS is 152 seniority numbers ahead of the junior ANC Captain. Did he really think he would be displaced? Is he only a viable candidate if he is based in ANC? Would he serve the crewforce differently if he was based elsewhere? I'd like to know, but DS has not put out anything publicly regarding his candidacy.
Sounds like the ANC mafia simply wants "our guy" and it only matters that he is ANC based.
Sounds like the ANC mafia simply wants "our guy" and it only matters that he is ANC based.
04-08-2009, 10:19 AM
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Noser, I'm not sure if you were referring to me as the bus driver, but the point that I was making is that unfortunately there is a vast amjority of mushroom or ostrich types in memphis that that have no idea of the day to day happenings within our union, never read anything from the union, and truly believe that the current leaders in the union are doing a fine job. You don't run into them in ANC or the Pacific, but they are a large number. They are the lemmings that I was referring to in my previous post. It is naive to think that everyone feels the same way that we do, or even has any knowledge of what has been going on during the past few years. I fly with and talk to guys all of the time who didn't even know that there was an LOA, much less what it smelled like. I have talked to bus guys who thought that the HKG domicile was a 757 domicile. I even ran into one guy at the grocery store in memphis last summer during the failed vacancy bid, who when I asked him how he was affected during the practice bid that came out the day prior, his answer was, What Excess bid? Just saying, it is no slam dunk.
This was not directed at you but to the guys that never fly outside of the US telling us who do how to set up a FDA. I have read your posts and have likes most if not all you have written. As for the "Lemmings", I totally agree, I even told an FO that the LOA would pass because there are guys in MEM who will vote for it because it will "not effect them." In the end I was sadly right. As for our LEC voting for it, they are taking much heat for us for that and the age 60 rule, however, I think that they are listen now and will not do something like that again (I hope). Again Driver, this was not directed towards you.
BJ, thanks for correcting my english, what can I say, I was a math major.
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