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Old 04-07-2009, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Tigerpilot1995
Exactly. I have said to my friends that UPS has a potential pr nightmare on their hands. I have been told that there are some advocates amongst the management ranks for our proposal. They are selling it to ATL this week. I still think the response is a toss-up.

I too have yet to hear anyone say the EB needs to stay away. As a bottom 300 guy I truly appreciate their efforts. I also am deeply humbled by the outreach of the members of this union to help me stay employed. My pregnant wife appreciates it .
PR nightmare for UPS ? ... that may be true if UPS actually cared about how they treat their employees.

For the most part, UPS workers are some of the highest paid in their industries ... so I wouldn't expect much sympathy from the outside sectors.

IMHO ...
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:47 AM
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I understand sympathy falls between syphilis and sh&t in the dictionary.

UPS may not care but they do NOT like negative press either way. "UPS lays off workers even though they took wage and work concessions to avoid layoffs." I don't think that is the headline they want to see. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:04 AM
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UPS And US Airways Report Smallest Declines

06/04/09

The U.S. Air Transport Association reports a 21.2 percent drop in overall cargo traffic for February 2009 compared to the same month last year.

U.S. domestic revenue tonne-miles (RTMs) were down 18.4 percent; North Atlantic was off 20.9 percent and traffic on Asia routes declined 25.7 percent during February.

Overall international traffic for U.S. reporting carriers dropped 23.6 percent for the month.

FedEx RTMs declined 16.7 percent domestically and 18.4 percent internationally. UPS reported a decline of 15 percent domestically and 13 percent internationally during the month.

The major U.S. combination carriers experienced even greater setbacks. Southwest domestic RTMs dropped 21.7 percent; Northwest -48.1 percent; Delta, -31.0 percent; Continental -31.3 percent; United -14.4 percent and American -36.6 percent.

International traffic showed similar declines with Northwest reporting -44.3 percent; Continental -22.8 percent; United -38.6 percent; US Airways -39.4 percent and American -27.7 percent.

Among the combination carriers, Delta reported the lowest drop in international RTMs with -13.3 percent. US Airways had the smallest decline in domestic RTMs with -6.7 percent.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
So the economy has nothing to do with this . You are just looking for someone to blame or are trying to cause a divide.
I am awake.
haha...

Yes, the economy.

but 200 guys getting a window seat didn't help. did it?

There wouldn't be a hint of the 'F' word at UPS if it wasn't for the FEs coming back...I don't care what the economy is doing!
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:27 PM
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SLPII,

really, just give the age thing a rest. and, i am under 40
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SLPII
haha...

Yes, the economy.

but 200 guys getting a window seat didn't help. did it?

There wouldn't be a hint of the 'F' word at UPS if it wasn't for the FEs coming back...I don't care what the economy is doing!

Those two hundred guys had a senioity number higher than yours, just as do the pilots who decided to not go to the ANC dom.
Your key board courage is amazing , why don't you take a little trip over to the B&G and post your opinions.
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
Those two hundred guys had a senioity number higher than yours, just as do the pilots who decided to not go to the ANC dom.
Your key board courage is amazing , why don't you take a little trip over to the B&G and post your opinions.
why? you gonna beat my ass? is this a threat?

yes, their seniority is higher, but didn't they retire from the front seat? how many chances should I person get?
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Originally Posted by SLPII
why? you gonna beat my ass? is this a threat?

yes, their seniority is higher, but didn't they retire from the front seat? how many chances should I person get?
Your logic is a bit flawed. They never "retired". However if you like, we can pass the hat for you or take a poll and see how many would be willing to give up their seniority so that you can become senior. Would that make your whiny ass happy?
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Would that make your whiny ass happy?
no...but seeing the NDs suffering to carry their bags up the stairs does help though.
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Originally Posted by SLPII
no...but seeing the NDs suffering to carry their bags up the stairs does help though.
You must be such a joy to fly with. By the way, I'm not a Farve or a ND, I'm 52 and was taught to respect my elders when I was growing up, something your parents obviously failed to do.
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