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Old 04-02-2009, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FXDX
FedEx wouldn't acknowledge that clause for new hires, I wonder if they will for our own guys. Seems like the very least they could do to somewhat limit the pain of the training process.

Then again, they don't call it the Boeing Bootcamp for nothing, so if I were them I'd plan on taking the written again.

Not to worry. Many had their FE tickets from the time they spent on the panel at other carriers. FDX wasn't the first gig for most. Seems like some people on here tend to forget that.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:21 PM
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Not to worry. Many had their FE tickets from the time they spent on the panel at other carriers. FDX wasn't the first gig for most. Seems like some people on here tend to forget that.

I had an FE ticket from another airline when I started here, FedEx wouldn't recognize it ...
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I had an FE ticket from another airline when I started here, FedEx wouldn't recognize it ...
Do you mean to say that you held a flight engineer certificate with a turbojet powered rating (with no restrictions) and FedEx made you take the FE written again?
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:49 PM
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I had an FE ticket from another airline when I started here, FedEx wouldn't recognize it ...
"Wouldn't recognize it"...? as in they made you go through the full FedEx 727 FE training program?

I think it's pretty much industry standard for pilots to go through the full program whether they just have their FE Written or their actual FE ticket - isn't it?

designed to make it as painful as possible - right of passage - etc.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:14 PM
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"Wouldn't recognize it"...? as in they made you go through the full FedEx 727 FE training program?

I think it's pretty much industry standard for pilots to go through the full program whether they just have their FE Written or their actual FE ticket - isn't it?

designed to make it as painful as possible - right of passage - etc.
May sound goofy, but I thought learning to be a flight engineer was more difficult than learning to be an FO on the 727 or the MD11. It wasn't that the JOB was harder, but flying a jet as a crew member was similar to the years of flight experience in some respects. Managing the panel, however--was all new.

Add the fact that for the downgradees it will be a paycut...why would you want to rush that training? I say go as slowly as it takes to learn the job properly.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:16 PM
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I'm curious--how can a bid open and close within 2 weeks? What about the guys who have vacation for 2-3 weeks and miss the bid altogether?

Oh, BTW Supermario or anyone else for that matter, who is this bluejuice BOT guy with all the slamdunk comments? Jeez!

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Old 04-02-2009, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
May sound goofy, but I thought learning to be a flight engineer was more difficult than learning to be an FO on the 727 or the MD11. It wasn't that the JOB was harder, but flying a jet as a crew member was similar to the years of flight experience in some respects. Managing the panel, however--was all new.

Add the fact that for the downgradees it will be a paycut...why would you want to rush that training? I say go as slowly as it takes to learn the job properly.
I agree...and if you're a junior flex/LCA on the panel, I'd think twice about training your replacements.
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...and if you're a junior flex/LCA on the panel, I'd think twice about training your replacements.
...huh??
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Originally Posted by FDXCapt
Do you mean to say that you held a flight engineer certificate with a turbojet powered rating (with no restrictions) and FedEx made you take the FE written again?

No ... but they made me take a prog ride and a "rating ride" which was not required, only a PC was required.
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
No ... but they made me take a prog ride and a "rating ride" which was not required, only a PC was required.
Man, you got off easy! It was my third FE school, I arrived with a well worn FE ticket, and I had to go through the whole "hazing" process!!!

I wish I could have just taken a prog ride and a "rating ride"!

I guess things were different in the "olden days" (sarcasm)
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