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04-01-2009, 01:28 PM

#21

DLax85

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cujo

So...some of the excessed 122 + F/O's will be heading to HKG...some will be denied an FDA slot (can't create an excess). Is this the same situation as the Capt’s were in before? What did the LOA's, that magically showed up and got signed, actually do?...how does this "virtual" training letter work?

Do you think all the HKG FO slots will now be filled?

...that's the only way someone seeking a HKG FO slot would be denied.

04-01-2009, 01:31 PM

#22

DLax85

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Originally Posted by 1st overnite

OK, I may be stating the obvious. But since the 727 F/E seat doesn't have an excess, is the goal of this to put the 122 being excessed off of the 757 to the back of the 727?

...and bye-bye NB FO passover pay for about 100 727 SOs.

04-01-2009, 01:35 PM

#23

Overnitefr8

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Originally Posted by DLax85

No, there's a "-1" on the WB CA seats too.

At the close, it won't create an overmanning in WB CA seats (...in fact, the total # will decrease by one), but it will create another big bump and flush situation.

Unless you're looking at a diffferent FCIF, there isn't a -1 by WB CA spots. But like Sluggo said, only 1 person can move out of the 727 CA spot unless others move into it.

04-01-2009, 02:55 PM

#24

DLax85

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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8

Unless you're looking at a diffferent FCIF, there isn't a -1 by WB CA spots. But like Sluggo said, only 1 person can move out of the 727 CA spot unless others move into it.

You are correct sir ---- my mistake at speed reading all the -1s.

That fact is interesting/surprising...and without any "-1"s those seats can theoretically grow, if anyone senior to the most junior person in that seat wants to bid it.

As another poster has pointed out, perhaps the company is assuming the vast, vast majority of those ultra senior guys that could take advantage of this won't.

04-01-2009, 03:02 PM

#25

FLMD11CAPT

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If that did occur it would just result in another round of excess bids

04-01-2009, 03:09 PM

#26

JethroFDX

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Originally Posted by MEMA300

Here we go again.

This is starting to be like the movie "Ground Hog Day."

04-01-2009, 03:11 PM

#27

Overnitefr8

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Originally Posted by JethroFDX

This is starting to be like the movie "Ground Hog Day."

Unfortunately it's happening on April Fools Day.

04-01-2009, 03:14 PM

#28

SuperMario

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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8

Unfortunately it's happening on April Fools Day.

I'm sure PC will issue a full retraction tomorrow with a "smile-face" emoticon and a cheeky, "just kidding, folks - April Fools!"!

04-01-2009, 03:25 PM

#29

MX727

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A quick glance tells me that only the top two or three 75 FOs can hold WB or 75 CA and the top 15 should be able to hold 72 CA.

But, they could've held those seats on previous bids. I expect most of that group of 75 pilots to stay put.

It'll be the lower portion that tries to go to the 72 FO seat. Everything else will depend on the 50-60 72 FOs that can hold 72 CA. If they upgrade, it will free up some senior 72 CAs to move.