BID 09-03 is out.
04-01-2009, 11:59 AM
#11
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Practice Bid
There will be two practice bids; Friday, April 6th and Wednesday, April 13th.
I think their dates are off somewhat. Today is Wednesday, 1 April. That would make 2 days from now the 3rd, right? the next 2 Wednesdays would be the 8th and 15th. I'm guessing we'll see a corrected FCIF shortly...
There will be two practice bids; Friday, April 6th and Wednesday, April 13th.
I think their dates are off somewhat. Today is Wednesday, 1 April. That would make 2 days from now the 3rd, right? the next 2 Wednesdays would be the 8th and 15th. I'm guessing we'll see a corrected FCIF shortly...
04-01-2009, 11:59 AM
#12
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Probably fair to expect that those of us mid-seniority W/B folks who didn't really move last go around will lose some spots as well. Now that the floodgates have been opened for the 727 Capt's & F/O's, I would imagine that we'll see alot of these very senior folks make their move to W/B seats in fear of not geting the chance to do it later on.
04-01-2009, 12:02 PM
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How many of those holding 757 FO can hold 757 CA or MD11/Airbus CA? I'm thinking 5 or so.
122 minus the 5 (or less) who bid to relieve plus the 7 minus ones from other seats = how many are being flushed down into the SO seat.
So about 125 going to 727 SO.
How many SOs are we going to need when flying is reduced? That will give us a good idea of who is immediately at risk.
122 minus the 5 (or less) who bid to relieve plus the 7 minus ones from other seats = how many are being flushed down into the SO seat.
So about 125 going to 727 SO.
How many SOs are we going to need when flying is reduced? That will give us a good idea of who is immediately at risk.
Last edited by Gunter; 04-01-2009 at 12:14 PM.
04-01-2009, 12:03 PM
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You're probably right about that. The only thing that might push a few of them off is that with lower BLG's, they might not have a shot at maxing out their High 5 unless they make the jump to a W/B. As a 60% guy on the Airbus in MEM, I'm expecting to slide backwards atleast a few percentage points.
04-01-2009, 12:21 PM
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I think they are worried about the FOs that can hold 727 Capt... You know they have already run the numbers... The minus 1s wouldn't be there without a Master Plan... Things just keep getting uglier!
04-01-2009, 12:28 PM
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Vacancy vs Excess
I think the messed up, at least in theory. Since none of the CA positions, except 727, are in excess in this one, what if the 70 or so 727 CA who can hold WB CA decide to bid WB Ca this time around? Wouldn't that make the WB CA seats overmanned again and require another bid?
Now, I haven't looked at the numbers, but if some of the senior 757 FOs bid to relieve the excess, and moved to 727 Capt, then the extra 727 Captains are now in excess and they could go to the WB.
I just don't see that happening, though.
04-01-2009, 12:48 PM
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So...some of the excessed 122 + F/O's will be heading to HKG...some will be denied an FDA slot (can't create an excess). Is this the same situation as the Capt’s were in before? What did the LOA's, that magically showed up and got signed, actually do?...how does this "virtual" training letter work?
04-01-2009, 12:54 PM
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I think this is going to get ugly. Now all the capt's that can play are the 75's and now all the FO's will get a chance to bump into a capt seat if they can hold it....and those super senior SO's are still stuck not playing. Maybe they should have just had one big flush, like last year!
I have a feeling, the 72 FO's are going to go for the money grab, and those of us close to the bottom are going back to the slave ship.
Good luck, and at some point, I am sure I'll be in training in Memphis
I have a feeling, the 72 FO's are going to go for the money grab, and those of us close to the bottom are going back to the slave ship.
Good luck, and at some point, I am sure I'll be in training in Memphis
04-01-2009, 01:27 PM
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I think the messed up, at least in theory. Since none of the CA positions, except 727, are in excess in this one, what if the 70 or so 727 CA who can hold WB CA decide to bid WB Ca this time around? Wouldn't that make the WB CA seats overmanned again and require another bid?
At the close, it won't create an overmanning in WB CA seats (...in fact, the total # will decrease by one), but it will create another big bump and flush situation.
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