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Old 03-26-2009, 06:40 PM
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There are about 20 disputed pairings for 727 F/O's. I'd like to think guys won't pick them up, but they will probably all be gone by tomorrow night.
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not by me!!!
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All of the 27 left seaters sucked them up in record time. Under an hour!!
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Under an hour!?!? That is pathetic. I'm probably being overly opptimistic thinking they will be there by tomorrow night.
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Some of these disputed pairings are RIDICULOUS! A DH, followed by 18+ hours off, then 3 legs into MEM. Come on...why is this disputed? Another one is 48 hours off in DSM, 29 hours off in STL, then 3 legs into MEM. I think I can find some time in there to get rested for my whopping 3 legs into MEM...

But, what do I know? I are just a dumb peelot.
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Old 03-26-2009, 07:33 PM
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Wow! An impressive bunch of money hungry, I'M FOR ME Captains!

Thanks for taking the lead.
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Matty -
When the PSIT/SIG looks at trips, there are a number of issues considered. The scheduled deadhead might not exist this month, for instance. On pairing 87, it looks like you cycle from a critical duty period, to night, back to critical with the three legs into MEM. On 228/229/230, with the deadhead you have 4 legs in the 24 hour period - the first of your operating legs beginning in the critical duty period.
But more than whether you think these are reasonable and flyable trips, the PSIT/SIG determined they weren't! And, it's not just the other "dumb peelots" making that determination. When a trip is identified as onerous, not contractually compliant, or unsafe by the PSIT/SIG, the argument is made to the Company to dispute the pairing. The Company side of the SIG (listed in your bidpack (PD)) looks at it. Then the pairing builders - Crew Planning and Analysis (RL) look at it. If they (the Company guys) agree that it's a bad pairing, it's disputed. If they (the Company guys) think it's OK, it goes to the SCP. If he thinks it's bad - it's disputed. If he thinks it's OK - it goes to PC - VP Flt Ops. If he thinks it's bad - it stays disputed. He might also say it's OK - but the PSIT/SIG is still allowed to make the dispute.
SO - it's not just one of us dumb peelots making the decision. The SIG is a group of knowledgeable reviewers, line builders, and managers there for your protection - not just your life style. When a crew member picks up a disputed pairing - the Company doesn't care, but they've most likely agreed it's a bad trip.
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Looks like the "King" of DP's is still at it. SB is attracted to DP's like a drug addict. He picked up 727/trip 87/7Apr. But it looks like he has some competition in the whistling crap house as 2 other captains have picked up multiple DP's. But, the have a long way to go to catch up with Steve. I wonder if he still gives a 15 min security brief before start.
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Edit:

The ALPA email I referenced was in error, and the pairing is NOT disputed.

Sorry guys.

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