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Old 03-27-2009, 10:55 AM
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I hope the MEM pilots that are excessed or choose to come up to ANC do not bring this willingness to fly DP attitude to this base.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:02 AM
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https://pilot.fedex.com/vips-bin/vip...ANC?11?17APR09

What's up with this ANC guy. I just don't understand. One day off the entire month. At least he's got carry over into next month.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pig on the wing
I hope the MEM pilots that are excessed or choose to come up to ANC do not bring this willingness to fly DP attitude to this base.
No need to worry. The ANC solidarity email program has been shown to be effective for those that arrive from The Planet with the mental capacity of a knat ("...it works better for my personal schedule...").
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:25 AM
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https://pilot.fedex.com/vips-bin/vip...ANC?11?17APR09

What's up with this ANC guy. I just don't understand. One day off the entire month. At least he's got carry over into next month.

One guy doing the work of two. Pretty amazing.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Good Idea, Question; will it cost more or less to get hard parameter in the next contract if we just blow off the DP process now?
For one that's a false choice. Two, the current DP process is and will continue to be blown off (by both sides) until the next contract is signed. I'm not advocating flying them, just pointing out the obvious. (I don't fly them and I'll PM you my emp# if you want to check) Reference PC overiding a successfull, 3 mo., non-flown, ANC DP last year. If it was in B/W (hard parameter) in the contract he or his successor could not do that. Besides that, all of our sleeping patterns are slightly different so one mans onerous may be in another mans wheelhouse as far as sleep is concerned.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:46 AM
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Does anyone know or called these 2 DipSh@#s? ANC 90 17 Apr T.S and ANC 21Apr J.H...........Sheesh!
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:20 PM
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And BTW, as of 1325 ET, only one DP remains unfilled in the MEM MD-11 left seat!

And the last one gone now, by 1600 ET!
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:24 PM
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For one that's a false choice. Two, the current DP process is and will continue to be blown off (by both sides) until the next contract is signed. I'm not advocating flying them, just pointing out the obvious. (I don't fly them and I'll PM you my emp# if you want to check) Reference PC overiding a successfull, 3 mo., non-flown, ANC DP last year. If it was in B/W (hard parameter) in the contract he or his successor could not do that. Besides that, all of our sleeping patterns are slightly different so one mans onerous may be in another mans wheelhouse as far as sleep is concerned.
One, it is not a false choice. Two, I do not care if you fly them or you don't. I am stating the obvious, if no one flew them it woluld be a lot easier to get hard parameters in the next contract. If everyone flew them it would be a lot harder to get more restrictive hard parameters in the next contract. Therefore it is not a good idea to pretend that pilots who fly DPs don't exist.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
One, it is not a false choice. Two, I do not care if you fly them or you don't. I am stating the obvious, if no one flew them it woluld be a lot easier to get hard parameters in the next contract. If everyone flew them it would be a lot harder to get more restrictive hard parameters in the next contract. Therefore it is not a good idea to pretend that pilots who fly DPs don't exist.
Continue to beat your fist against the wall and let me know when it stops bleeding. FedEx pilots are going to fly DPs, we are greedy.

Let's give up on hard parameters before talks even start, that's a great idea.

If no one flew them, neither you nor I have any idea how that would impact getting hard parameters during the next round of talks, only WAG's. Again, one thing we do know is that last year we followed the DP process to the letter in ANC and what happened?

The process you are defending is broken. I wish it was'nt, but Stevie Wonder can see that it is. The question is, what are we going to do about it next time. That's where our energy should be. Some smart dude once said, focus on the solution, not the problem.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:49 PM
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Talk about false choices, criticizing DP flyers is not the same as beating my fist against the wall. Try it. Type a post then hit your head against the wall, which one hurts you?

Yes the process is broken because too many people like you prefer to look the other way. That does not make it right. He11 we have a mec chairman who hints not to bid the 777 then bids it, that process is broken too.
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