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Old 03-07-2009, 02:35 PM
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Is this like a Jewish Shabbat question as to what constitutes work?

You have a problem with the Jewish Shabbot?
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Old 03-07-2009, 02:37 PM
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Don't tell the 72 right and backseaters they are not working. Almost met RLG last month.
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Old 03-07-2009, 03:09 PM
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You have a problem with the Jewish Shabbot?
Only when I accidently get on the Shabbat elevator in Tel Aviv and I'm staying on the 14th floor....

And, no, I wasn't there to check out Hero Matt's pad.
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Old 03-07-2009, 03:15 PM
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Only when I accidently get on the Shabbat elevator in Tel Aviv and I'm staying on the 14th floor....

And, no, I wasn't there to check out Hero Matt's pad.

Were you there to check out Hero Matt's "girlfriends"?
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Were you there to check out Hero Matt's "girlfriends"?
Does anyone still have the link to that? I can't find it when I go to his normal website and download recipes and puzzles...
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Old 03-07-2009, 03:51 PM
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Does anyone still have the link to that? I can't find it when I go to his normal website and download recipes and puzzles...
Please keep it to PMs.
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Old 03-07-2009, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by av8rmike

"If a reserve pilot has met or exceeded his RLG, his remaining R-day(s) in the bid period shall be removed without pay consequence."

Again I refer you to the April Bus RLG of 71:15. Using 6 CHs min per day of work, the Reserve holder can work a MAXIMUM of 12 days in April by the Contract. However, the Airbus Flex instructor will work a full 19 days, 7 more than the MAXIMUM a Reserve line holder could possibly work.

Nowhere in my original post did I comment on 'how hard it was'. I haven't had a seat support in at least 3 months. Contrary to your belief, they're not that common. As for trying to infer why I became and remain a Flex, don't. You just make yourself look like a pompous blowhard.
Sure you're commenting on "how hard it is". You're telling us if it looks so good we should apply. Can't even ask why you do it and you won't share. Again, I'm sure it's a benefit for you.

Your equation that sitting a day of reserve and not getting called is not a day of "work" is interesting. Glad you don't negotiate for us.

I regret to inform you that, industry wide, sitting reserve without getting a trip is considered work. We have some of the most fatiguing pairings in the industry that go to reserve.

If it looks so easy sitting reserve, you should do it.

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Sure you're commenting on "how hard it is". You're telling us if it looks so good we should apply. Can't even ask why you do it and you won't share. Again, I'm sure it's a benefit for you.

Your equation that sitting a day of reserve and not getting called is not a day of "work" is interesting. Glad you don't negotiate for us.

I regret to inform you that, industry wide, sitting reserve without getting a trip is considered work. We have some of the most fatiguing pairings in the industry that go to reserve.

If it looks so easy sitting reserve, you should do it.
Ummm, you never asked why I choose to be a Flex instructor. Instead, you launched into a diatribe about all the reasons I do so to benefit myself. Feel free to ask me a legitimate question if you really want a legitimate answer, just don't ask the question and then supply your own preconceived answers. The 'apply if you want to' is just to shut up the 'you guys get something we don't get' whiners. Has nothing at all to do with the degree of difficulty the job entails.

I didn't say a Reserve day didn't count as a day of work. I was responding to several people equating being 'on call' with a day of teaching in the sim. A reasonable comparison would be with a trip, not with a day at home on call. I've done plenty of Reserve, thank you, and it bored the crap out of me. This was back when we would be used way more than today.

You're right, you're probably glad I wasn't negotiating for you. I would have looked out for the Flex instructors, junior guys, guys doing O&Bs (6.0 CH) vs the MD11 mafia (6.4 CH), etc. Maybe no crappy LOA, either, since I was booted off my voluntary committee chair for opposing that.
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
av8rmike,

Please cry your river somewhere else ...

I've been on Reserve most of the last 3 years. I have NEVER met or exceeded my RLG ... EVER (not even close). A major percentage of my R days the past several months have been Airport Standby Periods (paying 4+ hrs). So ... while you're home EVERY night, I'm at my crashpad. Next month complaining about how I'm there 19 days (without an override) and you flex bubbas have a seemingly better deal ... it will be fascinating to see how management spins this injustice?

Honestly, I don't dislike or begrudge the flex instructors (and I'm excited about this new seemingly good "days of work" adjustment, I think it's a terrific precedent for the rest of us pukes that are required to work under similar rules)... In fact, I appreciate the really good training I receive from almost all of them. I'm glad they want to be there ... I'd MUCH rather have an instructor that likes what they're doing.

As you said it comes down to personal decisions, no one makes you commute, bid a seat where you sit reserve or be a flex. Since you are on a crusade to get injustices fixed how about adding this one, If a flex bids a carryover line his or hers c/o gets dropped and just goes away not into their bank. Why should this occur, should they not get to bank it just like any other pilot?
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Old 03-07-2009, 05:56 PM
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Much truth to what you say AV8Rmike.

Pity management is putting us in this situation. They need flexes so they are willing to deal. But Reserve line holders are a captive audience.
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