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Old 03-04-2009, 06:55 PM
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On todays announcment ups chief pilot states that under current economical conditions we are 300 pilots fat but some how he forgot to mention that 200 of them are the over paid under qualified flight mangalers running around and justifying thier existence. PATHETIC
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On todays announcment ups chief pilot states that under current economical conditions we are 300 pilots fat but some how he forgot to mention that 200 of them are the over paid under qualified flight mangalers running around and justifying thier existence. PATHETIC
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On todays announcment ups chief pilot states that under current economical conditions we are 300 pilots fat but some how he forgot to mention that 200 of them are the over paid under qualified flight mangalers running around and justifying thier existence.
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What gives you the right to say who is or who is not qualified? Everyone that works here at UPS has earned their position at this company. Explain to me how an airline operates without pilots to do the training and the checking? To suggest that every manager or supervisor is under qualified is sheer nonsense and the matter of being overpaid is a different argument. Granted there are different experience levels, but that also exists among our line pilots. I would place my experience level against yours or anyone else here at UPS, and I assure you that I am not under qualified. When are people like you going to realize we all work for the same company and that we have 500,000 employees world wide that continue to make this a great place to work. This company does not live or die by the Air Group.

Having experienced a furlough at another carrier for 5 years I hope that we can find a way to avoid any layoffs. During this global economic downturn it will take some critical choices by UPS to maintain the profitability of our company. Get a life and stop suggesting that people are running around UPS justifying their existence!!
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What gives you the right to say who is or who is not qualified? Everyone that works here at UPS has earned their position at this company. Explain to me how an airline operates without pilots to do the training and the checking? To suggest that every manager or supervisor is under qualified is sheer nonsense and the matter of being overpaid is a different argument. Granted there are different experience levels, but that also exists among our line pilots. I would place my experience level against yours or anyone else here at UPS, and I assure you that I am not under qualified. When are people like you going to realize we all work for the same company and that we have 500,000 employees world wide that continue to make this a great place to work. This company does not live or die by the Air Group.

Having experienced a furlough at another carrier for 5 years I hope that we can find a way to avoid any layoffs. During this global economic downturn it will take some critical choices by UPS to maintain the profitability of our company. Get a life and stop suggesting that people are running around UPS justifying their existence!!
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If you are looking for respect, the fact that the job you have chosen is one used to break unions, lower a fellow pilots pay and would be used to help enable the company to lay off our lowest paid pilots I think you will be in for a long wait.

Many if not all other major 121 airlines use union pilots for the vast majority of the tasks you stated.

Frankly many of the non union pilots at UPS have stepped on the backs of their brothers to get ahead. Their pay and careers have been bought and paid for by the efforts of the IPA.

With this being said, I fully support the intergration of the non union jobs at UPS into the IPA. As Doresy's case seems to prove, they are actually union jobs anyway.
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What gives you the right to say who is or who is not qualified? Everyone that works here at UPS has earned their position at this company. Explain to me how an airline operates without pilots to do the training and the checking? To suggest that every manager or supervisor is under qualified is sheer nonsense and the matter of being overpaid is a different argument. Granted there are different experience levels, but that also exists among our line pilots. I would place my experience level against yours or anyone else here at UPS, and I assure you that I am not under qualified. When are people like you going to realize we all work for the same company and that we have 500,000 employees world wide that continue to make this a great place to work. This company does not live or die by the Air Group.

Having experienced a furlough at another carrier for 5 years I hope that we can find a way to avoid any layoffs. During this global economic downturn it will take some critical choices by UPS to maintain the profitability of our company. Get a life and stop suggesting that people are running around UPS justifying their existence!!
You have obviously drank too much of their "Brown Kool-Aid". You say all have earned their position here at UPS, give me a break. You managers are the most under-worked group around! That will change with a furlough, pack your bags and get ready to find out what work on the line is like! Oh, can you write MRB's while on the road as well?
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Originally Posted by SEGATAKI
What gives you the right to say who is or who is not qualified? Everyone that works here at UPS has earned their position at this company. Explain to me how an airline operates without pilots to do the training and the checking? To suggest that every manager or supervisor is under qualified is sheer nonsense and the matter of being overpaid is a different argument. Granted there are different experience levels, but that also exists among our line pilots. I would place my experience level against yours or anyone else here at UPS, and I assure you that I am not under qualified. When are people like you going to realize we all work for the same company and that we have 500,000 employees world wide that continue to make this a great place to work. This company does not live or die by the Air Group.

Having experienced a furlough at another carrier for 5 years I hope that we can find a way to avoid any layoffs. During this global economic downturn it will take some critical choices by UPS to maintain the profitability of our company. Get a life and stop suggesting that people are running around UPS justifying their existence!!
Ok, how about just overpaid then...?
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What gives you the right to say who is or who is not qualified? Everyone that works here at UPS has earned their position at this company. Explain to me how an airline operates without pilots to do the training and the checking? To suggest that every manager or supervisor is under qualified is sheer nonsense and the matter of being overpaid is a different argument. Granted there are different experience levels, but that also exists among our line pilots. I would place my experience level against yours or anyone else here at UPS, and I assure you that I am not under qualified. When are people like you going to realize we all work for the same company and that we have 500,000 employees world wide that continue to make this a great place to work. This company does not live or die by the Air Group.

Having experienced a furlough at another carrier for 5 years I hope that we can find a way to avoid any layoffs. During this global economic downturn it will take some critical choices by UPS to maintain the profitability of our company. Get a life and stop suggesting that people are running around UPS justifying their existence!!
Segataki you are a mgmnt and stuck in anchorage and obviously an enemy of a line pilot. I'm not talking to you because i'll be screaming at a brick wall. I don't care what you say and don't care for managment pilots here. They are not like mgmt in other carriers and just like what airbum said your job is to break the union and a tool to lower union pay and concession so don't engage in any conversation with me because I DON'T CARE for YOU OR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY>

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If UPS furloughs, all management pilots who flY the line ought to be included on the scab-list.

Some of them are scabs before joining UPS.

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