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Old 04-17-2009, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
Well....I couldn't stand the agenda that the FDA LOA lovers pushed on us from above. They need to get outta politics before they do more damage.

Declare war on us? I guess we're even.

They want us to let it go? Are they kidding? That boondoggle was the defining point of their MEC career.

I hope you are right, but I am not counting any chickens. I have thrown salt over my shoulder and offered my daughter $10 for a four leaf clover. Will try any and all good luck charms.
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:57 AM
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Dude, you are misinformed. I am not running to continued Dave Webbs legacy. Where do you get these ideas? I have spoken to Dave Webb a total of 2 times since I left office 4 years ago. Once was when he called to ask me about my health when I was sick. The other was when I called the office to join in this race. Your other point is also off the mark. My comments were regarding public stands. Not private ones. We are running for public office not private office. It takes no courage for a candidate to claim he made private comments once an issue is already done.
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:22 AM
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I gotta ask Tony, Did you shoot coffee out of your nose when WR endorsed you in his last letter? I don't think it was a big help.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:08 PM
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It was a surprise when I found out. I understand what he is trying to say though. Here's the deal, TM just is not qualified for the job. He's never been an officer, never been an elected block rep, never even been a committee chair! My wife has the same qualifications that TM has she's just not on the seniority list. She worked on two committees as a worker bee. My understanding of the R&I committee is that it has vice chairs and TM is not even one of those. He's probably a good guy (I don't think he cares for me much) but he needs experience. If he wants to be an officer, he should run for block rep or communications committee chair and prove his mettle in the public eye. I have enjoyed my retirement from Union leadership and am only re-entering because I see a need. If TM got some experience I would be happy to retreat and he could run next election. These jobs are tough and you can't just walk in from behind the skirts of your committee chairman and run our Union (the VC does run it sometimes). I think that is what WR was trying to say.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:29 PM
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Again, there may have been legitimate reasons to support the LOA but none can explain the sales job. This is where Daniel Larusso will explain how ALPA works and they were commited to shove it down our throats once the majority voted yes. But I say that is the mentality that needs to "change".
I didn't write the by-laws or constitution, all I'm do is point out what they are, how they work regardless of who is in charge, and why expecting things go differently with any future ratified and endorsed LOA or TA is the very definition of insanity. It's not a mentality, it's the rules of the political game that we are all playing whether we like it or not. You like spending your time howling about change in other venues, then attempt to introduce a resolution to change the way such things are presented to the crewforce: when a pro/con statement is required, what must be presented at roadshows and via other communications, requiring the officers votes to be published on any LOA/TA as well as any endorsement vote, etc. Otherwise, you're banking that on strong-willed personalities like our NC that work to keep such things away from a MEC or a membership vote. By and large from what I've seen, the MEC's that have been considered successful, all tend to maneuver in this manner.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:32 PM
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[QUOTE=TonyHaus;597050 He's probably a good guy (I don't think he cares for me much) but he needs experience. If he wants to be an officer, he should run for block rep or communications committee chair and prove his mettle in the public eye. I have enjoyed my retirement from Union leadership and am only re-entering because I see a need. If TM got some experience I would be happy to retreat and he could run next election. These jobs are tough and you can't just walk in from behind the skirts of your committee chairman and run our Union (the VC does run it sometimes). I think that is what WR was trying to say.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, if you spoke about me that way....I wouldn't like you that much either. You get points from me for not sugarcoating it....but we need unity as much as "experience". Thanks.....you just helped me make a decision as to who I should tell my block rep to vote for.

By the way, I am stridently supportive of SS and if he wants to work with TM, then I trust his judgement.
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Honestly, if you spoke about me that way....I wouldn't like you that much either. You get points from me for not sugarcoating it....but we need unity as much as "experience". Thanks.....you just helped me make a decision as to who I should tell my block rep to vote for.

By the way, I am stridently supportive of SS and if he wants to work with TM, then I trust his judgement.
Well, I wouldn't comment about you because your not running for public office. An election, by necessity, opens one up for public evaluation and comment. I also support SS. Let me ask you this though, who do you think can help him in his job more? Someone who has never been there before or someone who has? As to unity, it is long time past the time to start the buidling of it. Whoever gets elected must make it their number one priority. I have a track record doing just that during very difficult times. If TM is elected, well I guess, we'll roll the dice and hope for the best. We certainly have no record to go on.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:56 PM
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Actually Tony, my wife also is more qualified than I am for a lot of jobs. She's working on her doctorate, has been a Republican Delegate and Party Chairman here in our county, and has run several grant funded programs in education worth several million dollars. She also a lot prettier than me, smells better, and generally people just like her better ...

Should we consider "Mrs Hauserman" as a write in?
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Old 04-17-2009, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyHaus
Well, I wouldn't comment about you because your not running for public office. An election, by necessity, opens one up for public evaluation and comment. I also support SS. Let me ask you this though, who do you think can help him in his job more? Someone who has never been there before or someone who has? As to unity, it is long time past the time to start the buidling of it. Whoever gets elected must make it their number one priority. I have a track record doing just that during very difficult times. If TM is elected, well I guess, we'll roll the dice and hope for the best. We certainly have no record to go on.
I am happy to see you are flaunting T.M's lack of being qualified as the reason for you to be elected Vice. I really appreciate someone with the talent that you obviously posses making that great leap of faith to help us out, thanks but no thanks.

I am happy to see you support S.S., he apparently wants T.M. and that should say enough about T.M.'s qualifications to be a good Vice Chair. He has the experience and backbone to make the tough calls.

DW, DM and WR have given all of us their best service, opinions on their successes and failures aside, they deserve a solid thank you. They should not be required to buy a cold drink on a layover, the time has come for a house cleaning and the ticket is SS, TM and DC.
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Old 04-17-2009, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyHaus
...If TM got some experience I would be happy to retreat and he could run next election. These jobs are tough and you can't just walk in from behind the skirts of your committee chairman and run our Union (the VC does run it sometimes). I think that is what WR was trying to say.
Wow!! You must have missed the day of leadership training when they discussed tact. Dale Carnegie wrote a book about 70 years ago you may want to browse, "How to Win Friends and Influence People."

I'm not really sure about this...Was our CEO an officer of a corporation prior to FDX? What about Steve Jobs prior to Apple?

I'm not sure how much experience they had that qualified them for their new jobs. But, I do know one thing...They had new ideas! Maybe, we could use a little of that?

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