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Old 02-27-2009, 07:38 PM
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Whereas anyone born after 1955 won't qualify for full soc security benefits until age 66 and 2 months,

Whereas anyone born after 1960 won't fully qualify for soc sec benefits until age 67,

Whereas the trend in Washington is to continue to move this date to the right,

Whereas all fully retired military pilots will be working until age 65,

Whereas we know the retirement age will eventually be defined as not fully qualified until age 65 anyway

And in order to align our contract language with our Union's expressed desire to have pilots remain working until age 65,

It's time to push for a contract modification to mandate age 65 as the contractually defined retirement age. Let's get the discussion on the table right now. I propose we get a vote before the union soonest.

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Nice 1st post. You'll go a long way here, with flamebait like that.
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Whereas anyone born after 1955 won't qualify for full soc security benefits until age 66 and 2 months,

Whereas anyone born after 1960 won't fully qualify for soc sec benefits until age 67,

Whereas the trend in Washington is to continue to move this date to the right,

Whereas all fully retired military pilots will be working until age 65,

Whereas we know the retirement age will eventually be defined as not fully qualified until age 65 anyway

And in order to align our contract language with our Union's expressed desire to have pilots remain working until age 65,

It's time to push for a contract modification to mandate age 65 as the contractually defined retirement age. Let's get the discussion on the table right now. I propose we get a vote before the union soonest.

Thoughts?

"if it's going to change, we want to influence that change"
Why? So I HAVE to work 5 more year!
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WOW!!! Bring out the flamethrower!!! This one will be really interesting? I can hardly wait to read some of the responses on this one!!
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Thats crazy.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:33 PM
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Numbersguy,

Whereas this must have been a really bad week for you to stop sniffing glue.

Do you actually understand the implications of what you're proposing?

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Old 02-27-2009, 08:37 PM
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Number of ex-wives.
Number of kids in college after you turn 60.
Number of years left to pay on the 600 acre estate.
Number of fortunes frittered away before thinking about retirement.
Number of picket lines crossed.
All important numbers to consider when deciding what age to retire.

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Old 02-27-2009, 08:39 PM
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Numbersguy,

Whereas this must have been a really bad week for you to stop sniffing glue.

Do you actually understand the implications of what you're proposing?

JJ
Glue sniffing seems to be the preferred pastime of a lot of APC posters.
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:59 PM
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31Hz: I'm still with wife #1, never lived through a furlough, I'm a paying/voting/poll-answering Alpa member. Hopefully no kids in college at 60. I'm actually not a new hire...still figuring out how to change that label on this site, been at the company 8 years. 40+ years old. Widebody rightseater. I'll be working somewhere between 60 and 65 (you probably will be too).

Jetjock: I have some ideas about what this proposal might mean. What do you think? Wouldn't it be better to shape this coming retirement change, before it is reshaped for us by some outside influence (company, federal legislation, etc)??

This change will happen, industry-wide, in the next two contracts. If you plan on being at Fedex after that, it will impact you. The time is now to start shaping the policy.

Right now one of the many manning challenges the company is dealing with, is not knowing who's gonna be here when. If you are over 60, you can keep flying or you can drop your retirement letter and be gone in short notice. The company has some incentive to push for this change, to lessen the risk. They want it....means we have some negotiating room here. Time to take advantage.
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