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Old 02-28-2009, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by viperdriver
When you say net loss of 1 aircraft how are you figuring that out?
Total OFP May 09 minus Total OFP May 10

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Are you saying net loss of 1 from May 09 to May10?
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How do we know the loss from Nov 08-May09?
I don't --- I did post what I know about the 727 as reported by management in Jan 09 (FP=80 OFP=57)

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I can't figure out how many "operatational aircraft" we have on the books now, and what the change is from Nov 08 when the last fleet plan was.
Agree. Will the company provide this information to the union directly, if asked?

Are there folks with friends in MX or Scheduling that have access to such data???
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Old 02-28-2009, 05:44 PM
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Don't forget about the HIDDEN MONEY!

Apparently hidden so well we can't seem to find it....

I'm looking for the hidden money in 4.a.2.b? Spoke with BC about it ... he basically said they didn't think it would ever apply, so they didn't want to waste resources on it!

I guess they dropped the ball on that one?
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Frustrating being in the dark like we are. I would think the economic "bottom" is for planning purposes around this summer, so an accurate may 09 fleet plan would help some of us near the bottom have an idea where we stand. And then that HKG bid may 09 fleet plan suddenly shifts to a new mention of operational aircraft out of the blue.
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So you are saying a loss of 7 Boeings from Jan 09 -May 09 (roughly)? Or I guess it could be possible they always fly less 727 in May than Jan so maybe we don't even know that much?

Confusing.
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So you are saying a loss of 7 Boeings from Jan 09 -May 09 (roughly)? Or I guess it could be possible they always fly less 727 in May than Jan so maybe we don't even know that much?

Confusing.
Yes --- but the statements made in Jan 09 may have been about our most recent flying in Dec 08 --- during peak.

My general point in posting all of the data and pointing out the difference between FP and OFP is that there is not a huge hull loss as the casual observer may have initially concluded.

I think there will be a relatively large shift from the A300 to 757, and eventually the 777 --- but, that is precisely what the company has been telling us all along.
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