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Old 02-21-2009, 09:51 AM
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That and if you actually order something and WEAR it, you must be retarded...
Well, count me as one of the retarded, I've had a pair of their gumshoe boots since high school, had the rubber part replaced twice (at no charge). It’s by far the most comfortable thing I have to wear on my feet, but then again, what do I know, I'm just one of the retarded masses...
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I talked to a guy at corporate who told me about the LL Bean contract. Apparently we made absolutely nothing (profit) on those packages and the competitor who now has it made a serious low-ball offer.
Yeah, a few weeks ago we got a memo here at Big Brown about that account.

UPS gets L.L. Bean Account

As far as making nothing (no profit) on that the LL Bean account... - c'mon now, we said that too when we lost our Dell account a while back.
"We were not making any money on it so the competitor made a serious low-ball offer..."

We win some, then you win some... Nothing new here.

PS. I've been saying for months and still think that you (FDX) and not us will end up with a DHL agreement.
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disregard........just noticed the link already posted above.

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The intel that I heard was that we lost LL Bean because our competitor put in a low ball offer and is trucking the stuff.
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The intel that I heard was that we lost LL Bean because our competitor put in a low ball offer and is trucking the stuff.
I'm sure your unbiased "intel" tells you that each time you get one of "our" customers it's because of your superior service but when it's the other way around it must be because of our "low ball" offer, right?

We gained this one but not too long ago lost Dell to DHL, then it went to FDX, so I guess that must have been a "low ball" offer too, right? Actually China Airlines is probably the real winner on the Dell contract as I see their 747 in Nashville regularly but that's a different story.

Next week you'll probably announce one of "our" customers is switching to you... Just the normal business cycle...



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I wasn't trying to start an argument here. I was just told by folks up that way that when I was passing through that a bunch of it was being trucked. Once again, I have no clue of it's validity but hey this is Airline Pilot Central.

And by the way if we didn't continue to take customers from each other, what would all those sales people do? I know of several local businesses that seem to switch a bunch. They have one bad experience with a claim or something and they swap. This will never change.
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Originally Posted by gderek
I wasn't trying to start an argument here. I was just told by folks up that way that when I was passing through that a bunch of it was being trucked. Once again, I have no clue of it's validity but hey this is Airline Pilot Central.

And by the way if we didn't continue to take customers from each other, what would all those sales people do? I know of several local businesses that seem to switch a bunch. They have one bad experience with a claim or something and they swap. This will never change.
Oh no problem, I was just saying today it is us, tomorrow it is you, and so on... No biggie.

You're right that some businesses, especially small businesses change their shipping providers almost as often as some of us change our phone providers...

By the way, I do agree that a large portion of those shipments will be trucked, if they can do it in a reasonable time frame they will...
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I can remember when I flew cargo with the 727, we did some supplementary service for FED Ex the Christmas rush. Good luck with the operation.

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The intel that I heard was that we lost LL Bean because our competitor put in a low ball offer and is trucking the stuff.
That may be true, but they never bid without making a tidy profit. UPS doesn't do loss leaders. They also use the Teamsters 'Team drivers' to great benefit. Only goes on an airplane if no other way to make service. Sure was a pain when we went through that adjustment in late 90's to 2003. We did lose alot of flying over that time. But it gets to the customer as fast as an airplane and at fraction of the cost, it is good business even if I wanted the extra flying. Still less expensive thus ability to lowball on some contracts. Only works in their core products though. They don't go after alot of business just to get 'no profit' business.
As posted, we will switch customers anyway. It is a normal part of our shared business. Personally, think it is good setup for both of us. UPS has done well precisely because Fedex was a market leader and developed it to a point that forced UPS to follow, my benefit as a pilot. <g>
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