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05-12-2006, 08:39 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by fecav8r
Why then is it that if I decide to pick up a trip out of open time for something extra, like tuition for a college bound child, I get beat up in all the blogs and am treated like a leper.
Originally Posted by fecav8r
What about the Senior capt that sells back his vacation and then flies his line. Isn't that doing extra?
Same word: selfish
Originally Posted by fecav8r
I just don't see how this is going to get me a new contract.
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05-12-2006, 09:12 AM
#32
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Explain it to me. How is it selfish when it is a legally authorizd thing to do and there are only a few doing it. Is it having any affect? And how much "extra" flying did the ones that are pushing this do before they decided it was a bad thing. Do you know. Does anybody?
05-12-2006, 10:30 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by fecav8r
Explain it to me. How is it selfish when it is a legally authorizd thing to do and there are only a few doing it. Is it having any affect? And how much "extra" flying did the ones that are pushing this do before they decided it was a bad thing. Do you know. Does anybody?
At least you picked up on the operative word.
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05-13-2006, 12:13 PM
#34
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Position: A300/310 Capt
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Originally Posted by R1200RT
So if you drop pay at FedEx and get mil pay then come back and make up your time at FedEx isn't that double dipping and working overtime.
Also, if you drop Rdays then pick up trips (which I have done) isn't that still helping since you are taking yourself off reserve when they are over staffed then picking up on days they are short. Not sure if that thinking is right but I'm thinking I need to stop that too. Just asking
Also, if you drop Rdays then pick up trips (which I have done) isn't that still helping since you are taking yourself off reserve when they are over staffed then picking up on days they are short. Not sure if that thinking is right but I'm thinking I need to stop that too. Just asking
The Air National Guard is a second, or part-time job, that is usually accomplished on Fedex days off, but you cannot always bid around your line. If you have a two day requirement at the guard, and have to drop a five day trip to attend, it's sometimes necessary to make this pay up.
Also, even though Fedex pay is lacking with inflation, the guard pay lacks even more on a day to day basis.
05-14-2006, 08:51 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by TonyC
You don't want an explanation, and you wouldn't listen to one if we bothered. All you want is rationalization.
At least you picked up on the operative word.
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At least you picked up on the operative word.
- The truth only hurts if it should -
05-14-2006, 07:28 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by fecav8r
yeah, I didn't think you'd actually answer it. It just doesn't make sense, it's ineffective, and it has nothing to do with selfishness. It's reality.
05-14-2006, 08:17 PM
#38
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Why don't you ask the boys out in Subic who is benefiting from their actions. Nobody but the LCA's and Captains that bid the SIBA lines in Junes bid pack. And then ask them how many trips have cancelled because of their efforts. And from what I hear that is the most cohesive pilot group we have. Bottom line, it's a personal decision. I don't do extra flying but that's my choice, not one I was harassed into. We still have a legally negotiated contract that allows this type of flying. Don't like it? Tell our negotiating committee to do something about it on the next contract. yeah, and I guess since I don't agree with you I'll be called a koolaid drinker or some management stooge. So be it.
05-14-2006, 08:52 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by fecav8r
Why don't you ask the boys out in Subic who is benefiting from their actions. Nobody but the LCA's and Captains that bid the SIBA lines in Junes bid pack. And then ask them how many trips have cancelled because of their efforts. And from what I hear that is the most cohesive pilot group we have. Bottom line, it's a personal decision. I don't do extra flying but that's my choice, not one I was harassed into. We still have a legally negotiated contract that allows this type of flying. Don't like it? Tell our negotiating committee to do something about it on the next contract. yeah, and I guess since I don't agree with you I'll be called a koolaid drinker or some management stooge. So be it.
Ask yourself if you would prefer a decent contract in the next 3-4 months or one in the next 1-2 years?
A strike is also legal.....once certain things occur ( NMB declares impasse and we wait for 30 days).
At that point a strike is legal but voluntary..............are you suggestioning those same people shouldn't strike because that is voluntary?? It is this type of short sighted thinking that MGT counts on.....................and if it keeps up we the likely hood of a strike is greater.........in my opinion.
05-14-2006, 09:26 PM
#40
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If and when the Union calls for a strike, things change. Same for the "no extra flying." Once the Union calls for it, we should comply. Have they done that yet and I missed it? That's the difference. I'll listen to the legally elected members of my Union leadership for guidance. Not an unorganized minority who are saying we should not do it and then harassing guys who do. Usually when something like this happens it's the guys who never do extra flying calling for no extra flying.
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