Overnitefr8

But if you look at his January month he doesn't have hardly anything though.

Oceanside11

Negative, ghostrider. Since I posted the trip vanished from open time. It's not the same one you were looking at. MEM 11/trip 3029/8MAR.

FR8Hauler

Exactly, enough of this witch hunt stuff. Don't fly dp's and once you are told not to fly extra or carryover by the union don't do that either. You guys smearing fellow dues paying crewmember's names around the internet need to get a life.

Oceanside11

Not something I looked for...something I stumbled across. And just because you are a "dues paying crewmember" doesn't mean you aren't stabbing your fellow crewmembers in the back by flying extra.

FDXLAG

For the record the union does not tell us to "don't fly DPs" we are supposed to figure out the right thing for ourselves. If you are waiting for the union to tell you to not fly DPs or not fly extra you will wait a long time.

From the SIG DP page:

Disputed pairings are NOT “STRUCK WORK” and are available to any crewmember, but they can be avoided by any pilot other than a Reserve or Standby pilot. As a reminder, once open time is released, you can then get one of these disputed pairings by:

Nitefrater

You need to do a little more digging before posting.... 3029 of the 8th appears to be trip 650 which was on his awarded Mar line. It's on it's third revision, and possibly was changed in some small way, then changed again. As near as I can tell, the trip as it stands now is identical to his originally awarded trip... same flights, same times, same tafb, same pay.


-'Frater
Not every bogey is a black helicopter.

Oceanside11

For whatever reason it was listed in open time as an X pairing earlier today (as evidenced by the current trip number). Don't know why it wasn't listed as trip 605 rv x, don't care. I was just curious who would be assigned an X pairing before the bid month started. Clicked on one of the calendars and thought "wow, that's a $#!+load of CHs, no protecting min days off there!"

That's all the digging I care to do. As you said, the trip is almost exactly the same trip as was awarded on his line. It's not as if the company added an extra 30 CHs to his trip.

Nitefrater

So what you're saying is that you see something that you don't understand and want us to do the digging for you and explain it to you.

As has been mentioned here before, scheds will frequently put trips into open time in order to manipulate them for whatever reason. I don't know WHY they have to do that, nor do I care, but it's sufficient to know that it does happen. With that as background, I'll dig before I start pointing fingers. Also note that the conflict window hasn't closed yet, so ANYONE with a feb carryover will still show all trips, even if they will eventually drop one to protect min days off.

Oceanside11

"Also note that the conflict window hasn't closed yet, so ANYONE with a feb carryover will still show all trips, even if they will eventually drop one to protect min days off."

Point taken. Something I hadn't thought of. Egg on my face. I'll go back to my hole now.

FR8Hauler

You are wrong on this account. The union discourages it and we have people who make phone calls for the union providing information about the dp process and to get feedback on the pairing. There is nothing wrong with a guy taking a makeup trip and although counter productive maybe to your likes and beliefs there is nothing wrong with a senior guy (which I am not) protecting his carry over. Once the union comes out and makes a stand on it as something not to do then go ahead and cast stones. Until then I think people calling them scumbags and whatever do nothing except alienate our crew members. Personally, I don't think it makes a damn bit of difference until the company and the union come to an agreement to get rid of the massive amounts of carryover and cap the amount of BLG we can fly at straight pay. If <name removed> wants to fly everyday of the month and make as much as he can then more power to him, his make up bank is not going to do him any good when he is furloughed or excess ed.