tennesseeflyboy

Hey now, I would like for someone to explain to me why I am taking a "reduction hit" on my monthly pay and the Company is still publishing CARRYOVER lines ??? What the Hell ........... Over ??? So, it appears that they are calling us "overmanned in seats" and they also want to keep this CARRYOVER situation ??? What side of the mouth is this coming from ??? I don't mind taking my fair share of PAIN, as long as EVERBODY ELSE IS TAKING IT TOO ............... Somebody please explain this, my keyboard is smokin' ............................

Buckwheat Jones

The company built all of the bidpacks, except the 757 and HKG. Still around 12,000 hours of carryover flying in March. Should be interesting to see how many nanoseconds it takes for the DPs to disappear!

machz990

Due to the nature of our 24/7 business some carryover is unavoidable. The bid month ends on a Sunday but planes are still going to Europe, Asia, etc. every single day. It's impossible to have every line end on or before the end of the bid month. If a crew flies a leg on Sunday (last day of bid month) there will be carryover. If it's an international trip the company won't D/H that crew back just to avoid carryover.

FLMD11CAPT

Welcome to the game......How was your nap????

tennesseeflyboy

OK, I could possibly understand a LITTLE of this ................ but take a look at the FEBRUARY RESERVE SIBA, there are FOUR LINES that are 10 DAYS OF CARRYOVER !!! The guy at the top of the stack for SATURDAY FEBRUARY 14, 2009 is holding onto 87 HOURS OF PAY, he is going NON CURRENT ON FEBRUARY 18, 2009 ................ *** ??? How can you possibly justify any of this to anyone of US, when those taking the PAY CUTS are watching OTHERS GETTING RICHLY REWARDED BECAUSE OF THEIR POSITIONS and SCHEDULING ??? Additionally, the amount of CARRYOVER for SIBA RESERVE LINES is grossly out of proportion to the amount of CARRYOVER for REGULAR RESERVE line holders ........................ way out of proportion. NAPPING ??? Why isn't there more posts on this board about this or are we the only ones willing to "make a statement" ..............................

FDXLAG

No doubt. But carry over could be minimized by starting the bid month on Sunday. The company could do that anytime they want. Any idea why they don't?

Instead of furlough talk they could be negotiating to limit max flying hours per month. They aren't. Any idea why not?

Yes we are a 24/7 operation but that is no excuse for some guys to fly 100 hour months every month and others to fly >60.

Tuck

1. There are several intl trips I've seen in March that start with a Sun evening deadhead followed by 48+ hour layovers and then operate. Now why in the world would they build a trip that way? They want carryover.

2. I stand reserve a lot and watch the trips in open time closely. Very often, trips are put in there that can be assigned to a reserve right away (inside the window) yet CRS sticks them in there and usually doesn't actually assign them until about 6-8 hours prior. Even when we've got plenty of reserves and it's a short trip. They don't need that much reserve coverage yet they WANT the trip to get picked up by M/U and not utilize a reserve.

The Company wants low reserve utilization and carryover. They could change these actions easily but choose not to.

FDX1

Here's any easy fix.

BID at 3 month intervals.

Immediate elimination of 2 months (24,000 hours) of carryover flying per bid period.

Maybe next contract?

Busboy

OK, I looked at the SIBA reserve carryover lines, for March. I saw 2 lines of 9 days, and 1 line of 7 days of carryover.

There are 13 lines with at least 6 days of carryover. You say, grossly out of proportion to the amount of regular reserve's carryover? I don't think so. Looking at the lines and the amount of actual carryover...I would say there is an excess amount of carryover in the regular reserve lines.

Don't get me wrong...I'm a firm believer in protecting min days off. But, if they're going to build so many lines with carryover...Then, they are going to have an appropriate number of reserve lines to cover them.

And FYI - There have been a disproportianate amount of posts on this board concerning carryover.

AirHead328

If there are carryover trips that last 7-10 days, then the company needs to build proportionate reserve carryover lines to be able to cover those trips in the event of sick call, etc.

Not saying carryover lines need to be that long, but that is the reason for the long reserve carryovers...

Some times a little less emotion and a little more common sense makes things more clear.