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Old 02-12-2009, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX1
Here's any easy fix.

BID at 3 month intervals.

Immediate elimination of 2 months (24,000 hours) of carryover flying per bid period.

Maybe next contract?

not sure i would want to be potentially stuck with the same crew member for 3 months!

i think ups does it on a 56 day bid period...
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:27 AM
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Carry in = B scale pay
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:05 PM
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how about while we're under the blanket of 4a2b the protect min day's off is "auto filled"...

ie, not an option?

a thought for discussion.
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Old 02-12-2009, 05:04 PM
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OK, Man .................. let's be clear about this and without ****ing in the water. There are many of us here that are taking the "pay hit" while others are making out better, JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN. You cannot convince me for one minute, that any of this is FAIR or JUSTIFIED. What we have here right now is effectively an A pay scale and a B pay scale, if this pay irregularity continues.
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Old 02-12-2009, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
Welcome to the game......How was your nap????
Really, I was wondering if this was a message he sent a couple of months ago that took its time making it to the forum! Very Twilight Zone-ish!
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Old 02-12-2009, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy
Why isn't there more posts on this board about this or are we the only ones willing to "make a statement" ..............................

There have been many posts on this subject in numerous threads! This topic has been talked about here, and has been mentioned by ALPA! You didn't just discover it! But now that you're here, welcome!
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:37 PM
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Carryover in the 11 will never go away. It cost too much money to break up a trip with 3000 to 6000 dollars worth of deadhead tickets. Expect a bid from today (friday the 13th) to end of march. No furloughs yet. Like anybody would know or they would say anything before the letters went out anyway. That is word from last weeks RGS.
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Old 02-13-2009, 05:28 AM
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Carryover doesn't have to go away. But we can negotiate to minimize its rewards. Just take away priority make up for CIC and leveling for carryover reserve and some of the incentive to puck your buddy will go away. If they want to work 100 hour months make them earn it.
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The majority of carryover would disappear (weekend layovers would be the major exception) if the bid month started on Sunday. We gave management the option to do that on the last contract. They didn't do it. It wouldn't cost them anything to do this either, but it would sure help us out right now.
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Originally Posted by MX727
The majority of carryover would disappear (weekend layovers would be the major exception) if the bid month started on Sunday. We gave management the option to do that on the last contract. They didn't do it. It wouldn't cost them anything to do this either, but it would sure help us out right now.
Already in the contract. They could start in April if they wanted.

1. A bid period shall be either 4-weeks (28 days) or 5-weeks (35 days) in duration, as determined by the Company and shall be uniform system wide. Bid periods shall begin on Sunday or Monday.
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