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Old 03-07-2009, 12:29 PM
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95% of unemployment insurance is paid for only by employers (only 3 states require employee contributions)

File early and often, it's the only way a mainline pilot will come close to breaking even on the taxes we pay into the system over the years
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And many do not. And many do the same job for a lot less money. That is why many employers don't check documents and why many republican politicians don't care about border enforcement. Many democrats don't care for border enforcements because of the many illegal votes they garner. I like the word many. If we truly deported illegal aliens it wouldn't be such a polarizing issue either.
Right now there is no way for any employer to validate a document.

Unless the employer is paying them cash under the table, every employee you read about in the various ICE raids had documentation.

How crappy is it that the Federal Govt won't tell you that an individual with a different name is making SSN contributions with your SSN number? How crappy is it that the SSA won't pass that information onto other federal agencies.

If we truly deported illegal aliens, how expensive would it be? Until we have border security, I'd just as soon not waste the money on the current revolving door system.
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Old 03-07-2009, 12:50 PM
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Right now there is no way for any employer to validate a document.

Unless the employer is paying them cash under the table, every employee you read about in the various ICE raids had documentation.

How crappy is it that the Federal Govt won't tell you that an individual with a different name is making SSN contributions with your SSN number? How crappy is it that the SSA won't pass that information onto other federal agencies.

If we truly deported illegal aliens, how expensive would it be? Until we have border security, I'd just as soon not waste the money on the current revolving door system.
I don't know how, expensive is it to run the california prison system. Take that number and devide by 3 and there is some money to offset the deportation costs.

We have some border security (at least temporaily), I am all in favor of more. But to say you aren't in favor of enforcing the law accept at the border is silly. I guess your for getting rid of all those CSI guys too. I mean if you don't catch the bank robber coming out of the bank why bother checking for prints to identify him later.
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... They were the ones who told me I could file in CA and I made $150 more per month and when you are in the "Soup line" every additional $ helped out...
Does that mean that once you got recalled you were now obligated to pay the CA state taxes?
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
From personal experience, I was not a resident of CA but was domiciled there from previous Brand X airline and was where I was Furloughed.

I lived in another State where I paid State Tax. I went to the unemployment office of my Resident state to file for Unemployment benefits.

They were the ones who told me I could file in CA and I made $150 more per month and when you are in the "Soup line" every additional $ helped out.

Take that FWIW, YMMV an I Hope no one needs to find out.


I had a very similar experience ... was airline domiciled at JFK and lived in another state. Collected NY state unemployment benefits (much higher than my state) when my airline went out of business ... good deal

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Old 03-07-2009, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
I don't know how, expensive is it to run the california prison system. Take that number and devide by 3 and there is some money to offset the deportation costs.

We have some border security (at least temporaily), I am all in favor of more. But to say you aren't in favor of enforcing the law accept at the border is silly. I guess your for getting rid of all those CSI guys too. I mean if you don't catch the bank robber coming out of the bank why bother checking for prints to identify him later.
Are you implying that only illegal aliens are incarcerated in California?

How many times do you want to pay to deport someone? A non-violent someone?
Instead of a revolving door of deportations, wouldn't it be better to secure the border. Hire Google (or FedEx) to create a verifiable database of every SSN/Address/Name and prevent illegal aliens from working with illegal ID.

Why do we grant citizenship to every baby born in the US? It was a good idea when we were trying to grow the country, but, certainly not now.

For the violent illegal aliens incarcerated in California, why do you want to release them back into the wild? Wouldn't it be better to keep them locked up?

Since we're going for 100% enforcement of our laws, why do we normally only arrest prostitutes? Why aren't individuals who knowingly hire illegal aliens punished severely? Under RICO laws, govt can seize your car in some cases....so, why not hang out at a Lowes or HD in CA and prosecute a few of the folks who hire day laborers for cash?

Instead of using the CSI folks for bank robberies/murders we should place 100% of law enforcement effort on finding/deporting illegal aliens. After all, sheer numbers make that the number 1 law breaking event in the country, with an estimated 15-20 million illegal aliens here. And every day they stay here is another day they break the law
Bank robberies peaked in 2001 with just over 10,000 heists for comparison. And, the average take is 10k....so, illegal aliens are also far more expensive than bank robbers in regards to their economic impact
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Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE
Does that mean that once you got recalled you were now obligated to pay the CA state taxes?
Nope never paid a penny to CA, (other than SDI) although I did have to report the Unemployment $$ I received from CA to Colorado as reportable income.
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No I am not implying 100% in CA prisons are read carefully I am implying 33.3% are.

I want to deport them every time I catch them. I am all in favor of securing the border, but if you take away the incentive you will need less enforcement.

We grant citizenship because the supreme court says we have to and the politicians (see previous dem and rep comments) like it that way.

When did I say release the violent offenders, if you read carefully I said deport illegals when you catch them and there will be less opportunity for the illegals to commit felonies.

As for hookers it depends on the local what happens to them, local issue not federal. I am all in favor of punishing employers who are caught (we already have laws on the books), it is the government that choses not to.

Nope don't want to shift the CSI guys at all. But that does not mean in I believe in amnesty. You already pointed out how easy it would be to flag duplicate SSN. Should cops just ignore illegal aliens on their third DWI? Is it ok to call ICE on the first felony or the tenth?
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Quite a bit of thread drift here. Can we get back on track?
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There are very few simple solutions when govt becomes involved in any situation.

Reagan tried Amnesty a few years back, but, Congress modified the proposals in such a way to doom the attempt to failure.

FOXNews.com - GOP Immigration Stance Far From Reagan Reforms - Opinion

As Californias budget woes spiral into the future, I think it is likely that they may remove the exemption granted to airline crews and attempt to tax individuals domiciled in California. It's easy to visualize CA Govt rationalizing that a significant number of aircrew members are sitting reserve every day in California, and as such, using the infrastructure w/out paying into the system.

Government at all levels seems to be morphing into competing interests, rather than concerned with the general welfare.

One idea suggested by a SFO area loan broker would be to minimize Congress control over the national tax policy by splitting the taxing/spending powers. Kind of a checks/balances proposal.
Would certainly be better if Congress would actually listen/act on some of the reports the GAO puts out.

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