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Old 02-07-2009, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11
not to mention that if you hit the Alternative Minimum Tax figure - none of these "Unreimbursed Employee Business Expenses" will change your tax due anyway - the ATM kicks in and wipes all of them out.

You could "find" $50K worth of travel and meals deductions and it wouldn't matter - the ATM is the ATM once you get into it.
Yep, it got me last year too. I paid the 50 bucks for Pro-Diem and then found out I had bumped into the AMT also.
But, with the cutback in flying this year, it may be worth it next tax season.
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Old 02-07-2009, 05:38 PM
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Great that they found you the $800, but if you are doing it correctly, they would not find it. They can not just make it up, they have to follow the rules. In your case it is worth it.

I know I am doing it correctly for my return, so for me, it is not worth it. YMMV
$59 to all but insure that I'm safe from an audit, not to mention the cost of my personal time with a calculator and a pencil wondering if I'm doing it right, is WELL worth it.
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:26 PM
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Irs pub gives two different accounting methods to figure what you are allowed. The employer is also given some options. Not to mention that the perdiem rates change in October and the employer is not required to use the new figures when they do their figures for their "accountable system". As the employee, you can use either method provided you use the same methodology for the whole year. In one method, you are allowed to claim 3/4 of a day for any portion of a day you are gone.......where the company does it on a pro-rata basis. You can either do the pro-rata or the 3/4 day for any partial day. I think these perdiem calculators will do all the options for you and provide you with the highest paying alternative.


That's what I gleaned from IRS pub 529
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:14 PM
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It should be well worth it but I've been doing it myself for the last 3 yrs. This year though I did it myself and am awaiting prodeim's reply -- I figure if I'm close then I won't spend the $$ next year. My own little check and balance on myself -- cannot hurt.

What really gets me is the number of guys I fly with who don't do this, domestic and international.
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:32 PM
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I received my pro-diem statement tonight (Sun) after submitting the information yesterday afternoon. I flew 5 months of Airbus SIBA last year and now I'll be getting an extra $1200 back on my taxes...Definitely worth the $59!!!!
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OK, here's a question for the pilot accountants. I don't fly O&B's so I'm not considering this for myself, but just thought of this one. The company doesn't pay us per diem for O&B's but can you deduct the per diem rate for the city you went to? Anyone ask a real accountant?
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8
OK, here's a question for the pilot accountants. I don't fly O&B's so I'm not considering this for myself, but just thought of this one. The company doesn't pay us per diem for O&B's but can you deduct the per diem rate for the city you went to? Anyone ask a real accountant?
I asked my EA the same question last year and this is what she told me.

O&B's do not qualify for M&IE since you are not "traveling away from home." The IRS publication 463 states "You are traveling away from home if: - Your duties require you to be away the general area of your tax home (defined later) substantially longer than an ordinary day's work, and - You need to sleep or rest to meet the demands of your work while away from home." Pub 463 offers examples of a Railroad Conductor that gets a hotel room, sleeps and eats, then returns to duty as eligible for M&IE and a truck driver that has a one-hour turnaround (like our O&B's) and is not eligible for M&IE. In short it states that since the brief time off was not adequate to get a rest period you are "not traveling away from home."

I'm not an accountant (yet) but I do pay one. Hope this helps. Check out the link for more information.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p463.pdf
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Originally Posted by Magenta Line
It should be well worth it but I've been doing it myself for the last 3 yrs. This year though I did it myself and am awaiting prodeim's reply -- I figure if I'm close then I won't spend the $$ next year. My own little check and balance on myself -- cannot hurt.

What really gets me is the number of guys I fly with who don't do this, domestic and international.
How did pro diem compare?
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O.K. Here are my numbers. The difference between my calculations from the per-diem summarys vs. pro-diem numbers for me was $1811.

Plugging the two different numbers into turbo-tax (IRS form 2106 worksheet) gives me an extra $363 on my refund.
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:36 PM
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SF3CA,
Do you fly mostly int'l or domestic, or an even mix?
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