Fedex Reserve Days
02-02-2009, 10:20 AM
#11
On Reserve
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: MD-11
Posts: 18
Nohaz -- Are you also in the MD/Memphis?
I will tell you that employee goodwill at a company like Fedex has a pricetag. If the company keeps pi$$ing us off, next time they really need support (the weekly operational emergency), I think people might not be inclined to help.
I am in the bottom 1,000. I doubt I am furlough fodder. However, if we have a big excess, I would most likely be displaced. In my position (and I respect other opinions), I'd prefer BLG cuts rather than downgrade position. I'd rather work 60 hours at a higher rate than 68 at a lower one. That see4 guy that was so controversial didn't seem to get this point. If you are in the bottom 80-90% of your seat, an excess bid might just significantly reduce your hourly pay. Just something to think about if you think furloughing some pilots would benefit the ones that stay on property. I can live on 60/month for some time. I hope most of us can as well. But working the same days as before (reserve and flex guys) at a lower pay is wrong. If the company doesn't need us, then why make us work the MAXIMUM days a month. The company can lower this at their will, but chooses not too. Dropping should also be easy since we have too many pilots, but this isn't the case as well.....
The company is saving a nickel now, but the cost of their actions will most likely be much more significant than what they are saving now.
End of second rant
I will tell you that employee goodwill at a company like Fedex has a pricetag. If the company keeps pi$$ing us off, next time they really need support (the weekly operational emergency), I think people might not be inclined to help.
I am in the bottom 1,000. I doubt I am furlough fodder. However, if we have a big excess, I would most likely be displaced. In my position (and I respect other opinions), I'd prefer BLG cuts rather than downgrade position. I'd rather work 60 hours at a higher rate than 68 at a lower one. That see4 guy that was so controversial didn't seem to get this point. If you are in the bottom 80-90% of your seat, an excess bid might just significantly reduce your hourly pay. Just something to think about if you think furloughing some pilots would benefit the ones that stay on property. I can live on 60/month for some time. I hope most of us can as well. But working the same days as before (reserve and flex guys) at a lower pay is wrong. If the company doesn't need us, then why make us work the MAXIMUM days a month. The company can lower this at their will, but chooses not too. Dropping should also be easy since we have too many pilots, but this isn't the case as well.....
The company is saving a nickel now, but the cost of their actions will most likely be much more significant than what they are saving now.
End of second rant
02-02-2009, 11:24 AM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: MD11 FO, ANC
Posts: 1,098
They don't care about "good will"......
Nohaz -- Are you also in the MD/Memphis?
I will tell you that employee goodwill at a company like Fedex has a pricetag. If the company keeps pi$$ing us off, next time they really need support (the weekly operational emergency), I think people might not be inclined to help.
I am in the bottom 1,000. I doubt I am furlough fodder. However, if we have a big excess, I would most likely be displaced. In my position (and I respect other opinions), I'd prefer BLG cuts rather than downgrade position. I'd rather work 60 hours at a higher rate than 68 at a lower one. That see4 guy that was so controversial didn't seem to get this point. If you are in the bottom 80-90% of your seat, an excess bid might just significantly reduce your hourly pay. Just something to think about if you think furloughing some pilots would benefit the ones that stay on property. I can live on 60/month for some time. I hope most of us can as well. But working the same days as before (reserve and flex guys) at a lower pay is wrong. If the company doesn't need us, then why make us work the MAXIMUM days a month. The company can lower this at their will, but chooses not too. Dropping should also be easy since we have too many pilots, but this isn't the case as well.....
The company is saving a nickel now, but the cost of their actions will most likely be much more significant than what they are saving now.
End of second rant
I will tell you that employee goodwill at a company like Fedex has a pricetag. If the company keeps pi$$ing us off, next time they really need support (the weekly operational emergency), I think people might not be inclined to help.
I am in the bottom 1,000. I doubt I am furlough fodder. However, if we have a big excess, I would most likely be displaced. In my position (and I respect other opinions), I'd prefer BLG cuts rather than downgrade position. I'd rather work 60 hours at a higher rate than 68 at a lower one. That see4 guy that was so controversial didn't seem to get this point. If you are in the bottom 80-90% of your seat, an excess bid might just significantly reduce your hourly pay. Just something to think about if you think furloughing some pilots would benefit the ones that stay on property. I can live on 60/month for some time. I hope most of us can as well. But working the same days as before (reserve and flex guys) at a lower pay is wrong. If the company doesn't need us, then why make us work the MAXIMUM days a month. The company can lower this at their will, but chooses not too. Dropping should also be easy since we have too many pilots, but this isn't the case as well.....
The company is saving a nickel now, but the cost of their actions will most likely be much more significant than what they are saving now.
End of second rant
As for FedEx, they're obviously trying to establish a new era in "good will" with the pilot union - attempting to exploit every gray area of the contract to their benefit and to the destruction of any "good will" that formerly existed.
Hopefully all the koolaid drinkers that would "do anything" for our benevolent dictator (FWS) will snap out of it and realize what's happening around here.
Evidently, the company has decided that spending extra money to continue the tradition of "good will" with the pilot union is no longer what they want to do.
Someone has used the phrase - penny wise and pound foolish - extremely appropriate in this case. They ARE gonna save money in the short-term. They obviously have decided that long-term "good will" between the pilot union and management is no longer important.
Probably, the long-term consequences of their actions won't affect their next management bonuses, so they'll cross that bridge when they come to it.
Sad......but not unexpected.
02-02-2009, 11:45 AM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: MD11 FO
Posts: 1,124
We did grieve it.
From the Special Message Line of 1/16/09:
Today, the Association filed a grievance challenging the manner in which the company has implemented the reduced minimum bid period guarantee for the February bid period. Specifically, the grievance challenges the disparity among the BLG averages for the respective fleets, the company’s failure to adjust work days for reserve line holders for the February bid period in consideration of the reduced minimum bid period guarantee, and the company’s failure to adjust work days for instructor pilots for the February bid period in consideration of the reduced minimum bid period guarantee.
From the Special Message Line of 1/16/09:
Today, the Association filed a grievance challenging the manner in which the company has implemented the reduced minimum bid period guarantee for the February bid period. Specifically, the grievance challenges the disparity among the BLG averages for the respective fleets, the company’s failure to adjust work days for reserve line holders for the February bid period in consideration of the reduced minimum bid period guarantee, and the company’s failure to adjust work days for instructor pilots for the February bid period in consideration of the reduced minimum bid period guarantee.
02-02-2009, 05:13 PM
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2007
Position: 777 Multi-tasker
Posts: 712
I'm hearing rumors that the Mar bid month will be similar to the Feb bid month in building. No SIG input again.
Didn't we just get an e mail from someone saying the lines were a collective effort between the company and the union? Was that someone important, or knew what was going on?
looks like we're going to be Mooked again?
Didn't we just get an e mail from someone saying the lines were a collective effort between the company and the union? Was that someone important, or knew what was going on?
looks like we're going to be Mooked again?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
