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Old 01-27-2009, 05:40 PM
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Just read the little "note" from the NC Chair.

Similar to the presentations at recent meetings, but still a big improvement over past updates from the NC. I actually learned something about what was going on in the process! Not just fluff!

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Assuming everything JG said is true (no reason not to think it isn't) regarding the company's actions, it's amazing how they do show mixed signals between just wanting to do cost saving and solving a manning problem.
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My first thought is...they are covering their asc 'cause they know something (big?) is going to happen and they (might?) have missed an opportunity to succeed...

...going to re-read it and think about it
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My first thought is...they are covering their asc 'cause they know something (big?) is going to happen and they (might?) have missed an opportunity to succeed...

...going to re-read it and think about it

Which side are you talking about, union or company or both?
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Folks, let's give the Union leadership some credit and support. The latest comm is eye-opening and everything I read lately makes me feel better about this Union.

Ask yourself, what has management been putting out as far as "comm"?

FedEx voted greatest company in the Universe for 10 zillionth time
Singapore cargo pilots now living in boxes rather than flying them
"5 star" ratings for all of flt management on A JOB WELL DONE

If you aren't getting in-line behind our Union right now, you need to be checked for an IQ and a pulse.

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JG just said MPBG had to "snap back" if a furlough occurred. You can't interpret 4a2b any other way.

So the question is - Does the company want a furlough or not if conditions worsen?

If they do it, it has to be big. Otherwise buyups would start again.

This protects us from a mini-furlough that has little meaning. Our manning all over the place inhibits, but does not prevent, furlough too. But, at some point, the costs are outweighed by the potential savings.

Too close to call folks...

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Folks, let's give the Union leadership some credit and support. The latest comm is eye-opening and everything I read lately makes me feel better about this Union.

If you aren't getting in-line behind our Union right now, you need to be checked for an IQ and a pulse.

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I'm with you. I mostly kid around on here (it's not the forum it used to be) but it's now or never for us.

To be honest I have heard a lot about the company offering deals that included no furlough language. Of course I wasn't told it was just until May and 58hr months. Deals that were done and the Union walked away from. I have to believe the union now. I can't imagine what their agenda to lie would be (it's their a$$ too) We are being hit harder than the pilots at bankrupt airlines. I choose not to question the unions agenda from now on.

I love FedEx and love my job and I'd do it for 25% of what I make (or free) if I felt it was for the right reason. We are getting the shaft ... Let's live by the agreement we have and let the grievance run it's course. I'll bet anyone on here there won't be a furlough (unless it's a very few to try to divide the pilots).

I'm not a Dave Webb fan at all, but I like the way the union is standing tall. Lets help and back the guys on the front lines.
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I'll bet anyone on here there won't be a furlough (unless it's a very few to try to divide the pilots).
What odds are you giving?

I don't believe a small furlough is in the cards at all. I'm talking about the big one, so to speak.
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Amazing what a well written and informative piece like this can do to rally the troops.

Just hope we can be kept in the loop like this more often.

Good information goes a long way towards keeping the divisiveness among the various groups of us (senior/junior, line dog/flex......) at bay.

It also lets us all vent our frustration and efforts at the real “mis”–managers of this whole mess……
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Originally Posted by R1200RT
I'll bet anyone on here there won't be a furlough (unless it's a very few to try to divide the pilots).

I'm not a Dave Webb fan at all, but I like the way the union is standing tall. Lets help and back the guys on the front lines.
I agree with you. In my opinion, they can't furlough, even a token 25 guys because that will nullify 4A2B and they lose the money they are shafting us by having to buy up to 68/85 again.

I predict they will drag this out, have an excess bid to show "intent" but never furlough and claim that the paycuts were justified.

This is nothing more than Mook-a-nomics and somebody, eventually, will have to pay for the decision.
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