UPS- Dest Alt for ANC
01-25-2009, 09:24 AM
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The aforementioned watering hole is only open Mon, Wed, and Friday. I had to stay there for 5 days when I was delivering a new corporate jet to Asia. The Russians were late with our landing and overflight permits for Petropovlosk. All we did was go fly fishing for Salmon and Trout and shoot guns and eat. It was a very unexpected "mancation".
01-25-2009, 09:51 AM
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The story, such as I recall, is this: the MD11 got smoke in the cabin from a bad recirc fan. This was just after Swissair, so they put it down ASAP - at night - in the dead of winter - into Cold Bay.
So... 250 or so pax, mostly Asian, suddenly on the ground on an island with maybe 2000 inhabitants. According to the guy that told me this, the entire population came out, and they all took the passengers into their homes. There was a church or something for those with babies or the elderly. The locals arranged a big breakfast for them the next morning, and then Delta got a charter in there to get everybody back to ANC.
The Delta station agent at ANC asked the Cold Bay mayor how they could pay them back. So Delta bought the town a new radio system for their police and paramedics. And they shipped them 5 pallets of fresh fruit.
I'm sure I got some of it wrong but there you go.
So... 250 or so pax, mostly Asian, suddenly on the ground on an island with maybe 2000 inhabitants. According to the guy that told me this, the entire population came out, and they all took the passengers into their homes. There was a church or something for those with babies or the elderly. The locals arranged a big breakfast for them the next morning, and then Delta got a charter in there to get everybody back to ANC.
The Delta station agent at ANC asked the Cold Bay mayor how they could pay them back. So Delta bought the town a new radio system for their police and paramedics. And they shipped them 5 pallets of fresh fruit.
I'm sure I got some of it wrong but there you go.
01-25-2009, 10:54 AM
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The story, such as I recall, is this: the MD11 got smoke in the cabin from a bad recirc fan. This was just after Swissair, so they put it down ASAP - at night - in the dead of winter - into Cold Bay.
So... 250 or so pax, mostly Asian, suddenly on the ground on an island with maybe 2000 inhabitants. According to the guy that told me this, the entire population came out, and they all took the passengers into their homes. There was a church or something for those with babies or the elderly. The locals arranged a big breakfast for them the next morning, and then Delta got a charter in there to get everybody back to ANC.
The Delta station agent at ANC asked the Cold Bay mayor how they could pay them back. So Delta bought the town a new radio system for their police and paramedics. And they shipped them 5 pallets of fresh fruit.
I'm sure I got some of it wrong but there you go.
So... 250 or so pax, mostly Asian, suddenly on the ground on an island with maybe 2000 inhabitants. According to the guy that told me this, the entire population came out, and they all took the passengers into their homes. There was a church or something for those with babies or the elderly. The locals arranged a big breakfast for them the next morning, and then Delta got a charter in there to get everybody back to ANC.
The Delta station agent at ANC asked the Cold Bay mayor how they could pay them back. So Delta bought the town a new radio system for their police and paramedics. And they shipped them 5 pallets of fresh fruit.
I'm sure I got some of it wrong but there you go.
01-25-2009, 11:23 AM
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Quite a hospitable bunch of people. They were outnumbered 3 to 1 by their visitors!
Delta Air Lines Says Thanks to Alaska Village
ATLANTA, April 2 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines is saying a big "thank you" to an Alaska town that gave a gracious welcome to a Delta flight diverted there in a precautionary landing on March 23.
Residents of Cold Bay, Alaska, -- population 69 -- took 220 passengers and crew members into their homes, cooked breakfast and provided blankets after Delta Flight 79, a McDonnell-Douglas 11 (MD-11) aircraft, made an unscheduled stop at the Alaska Peninsula village en route to Tokyo from Los Angeles.
"Cold Bay provided a very warm welcome to our passengers and crew," said Mac Armstrong, Delta's executive vice president - operations. "The residents went out of their way to be helpful and treat everyone on Flight 79 like old friends. We would like to extend a little Delta hospitality in return."
The town sent both its school buses, joined by volunteers with minivans, to the local airfield and shuttled passengers to the Cold Bay School gym, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service housing, and the two local inns. A number of passengers traveling with children were welcomed into nearby homes, while several Cold Bay residents stayed up all night cooking biscuits, bacon, salmon and rice for the travelers.
In gratitude for the town's hospitality, Delta will provide $7,000 to enable Cold Bay to receive a matching grant from the state of Alaska for a new two-way radio system for local emergency medical technicians (EMT). Delta also sent a gift of 50 cases of fresh fruit and vegetables not grown on the windswept tundra and will send Delta T-shirts for the kids at Cold Bay School.
Jim Zerbe, Delta's station manger in Anchorage, will present a check to the mayor, as well as a plaque officially thanking the people of Cold Bay, in a ceremony this week.
Cold Bay has a 10,000-foot runway dating back to World War II days, when the location was used as a military staging point. Today, the runway is an alternate landing site for the space shuttle. SOURCE Delta Air Lines, Inc.
FAA Initial Report.
B. Reg. No.: DAL79 M/M: MD11 Desc: MD-11
Activity: Business Phase: Cruise GA-A/C: Air Carrier
Descr: DAL79 EN ROUTE TO COLD BAY REPORTED SMOKE IN THE CABIN, ACFT CURRENTLY 49N 168W SOUTH OF ALEUTIAN CHAIN, NO ETA FOR COLD BAY, ACFT CURRENTLY IN OAKLAND AIRSPACE, 240209 ACFT DUMPING FUEL, ETA COLD BAY 0229Z,; 240247 ACFT LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT, 235 SOB, COLD BAY, AK
Quite a hospitable bunch of people. They were outnumbered 3 to 1 by their visitors!
Delta Air Lines Says Thanks to Alaska Village
ATLANTA, April 2 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines is saying a big "thank you" to an Alaska town that gave a gracious welcome to a Delta flight diverted there in a precautionary landing on March 23.
Residents of Cold Bay, Alaska, -- population 69 -- took 220 passengers and crew members into their homes, cooked breakfast and provided blankets after Delta Flight 79, a McDonnell-Douglas 11 (MD-11) aircraft, made an unscheduled stop at the Alaska Peninsula village en route to Tokyo from Los Angeles.
"Cold Bay provided a very warm welcome to our passengers and crew," said Mac Armstrong, Delta's executive vice president - operations. "The residents went out of their way to be helpful and treat everyone on Flight 79 like old friends. We would like to extend a little Delta hospitality in return."
The town sent both its school buses, joined by volunteers with minivans, to the local airfield and shuttled passengers to the Cold Bay School gym, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service housing, and the two local inns. A number of passengers traveling with children were welcomed into nearby homes, while several Cold Bay residents stayed up all night cooking biscuits, bacon, salmon and rice for the travelers.
In gratitude for the town's hospitality, Delta will provide $7,000 to enable Cold Bay to receive a matching grant from the state of Alaska for a new two-way radio system for local emergency medical technicians (EMT). Delta also sent a gift of 50 cases of fresh fruit and vegetables not grown on the windswept tundra and will send Delta T-shirts for the kids at Cold Bay School.
Jim Zerbe, Delta's station manger in Anchorage, will present a check to the mayor, as well as a plaque officially thanking the people of Cold Bay, in a ceremony this week.
Cold Bay has a 10,000-foot runway dating back to World War II days, when the location was used as a military staging point. Today, the runway is an alternate landing site for the space shuttle. SOURCE Delta Air Lines, Inc.
FAA Initial Report.
B. Reg. No.: DAL79 M/M: MD11 Desc: MD-11
Activity: Business Phase: Cruise GA-A/C: Air Carrier
Descr: DAL79 EN ROUTE TO COLD BAY REPORTED SMOKE IN THE CABIN, ACFT CURRENTLY 49N 168W SOUTH OF ALEUTIAN CHAIN, NO ETA FOR COLD BAY, ACFT CURRENTLY IN OAKLAND AIRSPACE, 240209 ACFT DUMPING FUEL, ETA COLD BAY 0229Z,; 240247 ACFT LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT, 235 SOB, COLD BAY, AK
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03-08-2009, 05:03 PM
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03-08-2009, 06:22 PM
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Another problem with AKN is that, while it may well be "legal" to use as an alternate as far as FAR's are concerned, if the wind is blowing over 10 knots from the south, you're asking for a fecal storm as you're now committed to landing Rwy 12 (due to the 10 knot tailwind limitation) but you can't turn around once you get to the end (since it's only 100 feet wide). While at some weights with heavy braking/flaps 50 on the Turtle you might be able to turn right 2/3 down there are no guarantees. So I suppose one would have to tell them to have a tug standing by to push you back so you don't close the runway for too long, since you're likely not the only one landing there in that scenario.
In that scnerio, it may not get closed, the guy behind you just gets 250" less than you did. Then "Rinse & repeat....")
But, I hope not to go there in the Mighty Dog anytime soon.
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