FDX-February Bidpacks
04-14-2009, 10:00 AM
#21
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I almost hate to admit it (as I know how hard the PSIT works on your collective behalf) but I thought the lines were slightly better. I bid more lines than usual, maybe because RLG is so low and I'd hate to get stuck working 15 R days for only 62 hrs. pay.
All-in-all, I expected the lines would be MUCH worse without the SIG oversight
All-in-all, I expected the lines would be MUCH worse without the SIG oversight
What do you think now?
04-14-2009, 12:41 PM
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Let's see - you put one 58 CH trip on a line in ANC - it begins on Monday - ends on Saturday. First - for the 65+% commuters in the domicile, you can't commute into it. You can't commute home unless you go through MEM. You return too late on Saturday to jumpseat on AS to make any connections. And, even if you bought a ticket on Saturday, if your AS flight is late into SEA, you'll be stuck there. Second, since the trip isn't more than 168 TAFB, no resets are required. Yep - start looking for 2 leg, three leg, intra-Asia with an RFO, multiple night hub-turns where language is clearly an issue, and typhoon season is here in MAY. Layovers will be reduced to minimums, so the international flying will mirror the domestic. One big difference, you start your trip behind the clock and never reset.
The MAY lines look good because a 58-65 CH BLG is easy. Unfortunately, placement of trips is atrocious. There's nothing good about what's going on with the lines or the BLGs. For MEM and LA, city purity will be a thing of the past. If you're excited about this, you'll really like PBS!!!
Here's a suggestion - take a look at the trips in your ALPA calendar from say . . . 2003 or 2004. How many sling-shots do you see flying back and forth across Europe and Asia? How many trips do you have with 3 Atlantic crossings, PLUS a Pacific crossing? We successfully disputed the 5 SFS hub-turns, but now we're using an RFO going from PEN-SIN-NRT. Do you think this was the FAA's vision and interpretation when FAR 121.513 and FAR 121.521-.525 were implemented to augment crews for long flights with RFO's?
The pairings have deteriorated to a point of being unacceptable. The lines are built with those bad pairings. Unless you're bidding on the first two pages of any of the bid-packs, expect your quality of life to be BAD.
The MAY lines look good because a 58-65 CH BLG is easy. Unfortunately, placement of trips is atrocious. There's nothing good about what's going on with the lines or the BLGs. For MEM and LA, city purity will be a thing of the past. If you're excited about this, you'll really like PBS!!!
Here's a suggestion - take a look at the trips in your ALPA calendar from say . . . 2003 or 2004. How many sling-shots do you see flying back and forth across Europe and Asia? How many trips do you have with 3 Atlantic crossings, PLUS a Pacific crossing? We successfully disputed the 5 SFS hub-turns, but now we're using an RFO going from PEN-SIN-NRT. Do you think this was the FAA's vision and interpretation when FAR 121.513 and FAR 121.521-.525 were implemented to augment crews for long flights with RFO's?
The pairings have deteriorated to a point of being unacceptable. The lines are built with those bad pairings. Unless you're bidding on the first two pages of any of the bid-packs, expect your quality of life to be BAD.
04-15-2009, 04:51 PM
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Kind of crummy this month
Random thoughts ...
Looks like many 2 leg d/h's that used to be only 1 NW leg. e.g US MEM-CLT-EWR that was previously NW MEM-EWR
Slightly lower line values every month? I guess 48 hrs will be the ultimate limit?
Looks like unreasonably low deviation bank values? Might have to actually start in MEM? What a real pain in the arse?
Unconfirmed rumor? Does anybody know for sure if the FX80 accident happened on a disputed pairing? That sure would shed a different light on this ugly issue?
I've heard the CVR has the crew discussing several times about how tired they were? Even if it wasn't disputed, this is a major safety issue ...Mark
04-16-2009, 03:50 AM
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04-16-2009, 05:25 AM
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I don't remember the quote from the Company Ret after the JAX(?) accident exactly, but it was basically, "The pairing was legal, therefore fatigue was not a factor."
Since all of our "optimized" pairings are legal, it's patently obvious that fatigue could not have played a factor in any incident/accident.
Since all of our "optimized" pairings are legal, it's patently obvious that fatigue could not have played a factor in any incident/accident.
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