FDX-Deviation ground transpo.
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FDX-Deviation ground transpo.
I know that if I deviate on the front of a DH the ground transpo. is cancelled along with the airline ticket, but I thought I could keep the ground transpo. with a call to the hotel desk. I just tried that and they said no, it's gone and can't get it back. Is this correct? Thanks.
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Another Fox hose job
I know that if I deviate on the front of a DH the ground transpo. is cancelled along with the airline ticket, but I thought I could keep the ground transpo. with a call to the hotel desk. I just tried that and they said no, it's gone and can't get it back. Is this correct? Thanks.
#3
That is correct. Another of the good deals. There are some caveats. If you are deviating into KIX for example, usually via JS, email KIXR and let them know your details of arrival. DO NOT ask about paying for the ride, just tell them when you will arrive. They will have the normal taxi there, and you just sign. ie, Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to. Good thing too, the taxi is $180 and up.
#4
The company decided there was no way to reprogram the software to make it stop canceling the ground transportation. Amazing how they have so much trouble changing software when it saves them money. The union fought this but looks like we rolled over. Supposedly, you may be able to claim this when you file your expense report. I run about 50% success I think it depends on the auditor.
They use the same programmers that work the bids.....
#5
If the hotel is one that provides transportation to/from the airport, then you're still good to go. (For example, both airport hotels in Newark)
If it's one that only does the transpo as part of the contract, then you are SOL if the whole crew is deviating.
If it's one that only does the transpo as part of the contract, then you are SOL if the whole crew is deviating.
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Seems to me that if they are going to canx the ground transpo. automatically, then they should automatically credit the deviation bank for the cost of the ride. It doesn't make sense that I should have to squeeze an airline ticket and cab ride out of the accepted fare just to save a hotel scheduler a phone call.
Thanks to all for your input.................I know we have bigger problems to deal with right now.
Thanks to all for your input.................I know we have bigger problems to deal with right now.
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Obviously true, but it is not the way things were pre FOX. We rolled over but it is time to move on.
#8
speaking of ground transportation as a deviation expense.....
I was flying with a guy a few days ago, and he asked me if he could claim the cost of a rental car as a normal deviation expense (vs. taxi, limo, etc.)
I didn't know the answer, and the contract only says "vendor for surface transportation" - kinda vague.
I never have tried it, but wondering if anyone else has ever done a rental car reimbursement (not during ITU - just on a regular deviation)??
I was flying with a guy a few days ago, and he asked me if he could claim the cost of a rental car as a normal deviation expense (vs. taxi, limo, etc.)
I didn't know the answer, and the contract only says "vendor for surface transportation" - kinda vague.
I never have tried it, but wondering if anyone else has ever done a rental car reimbursement (not during ITU - just on a regular deviation)??
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speaking of ground transportation as a deviation expense.....
I was flying with a guy a few days ago, and he asked me if he could claim the cost of a rental car as a normal deviation expense (vs. taxi, limo, etc.)
I didn't know the answer, and the contract only says "vendor for surface transportation" - kinda vague.
I never have tried it, but wondering if anyone else has ever done a rental car reimbursement (not during ITU - just on a regular deviation)??
I was flying with a guy a few days ago, and he asked me if he could claim the cost of a rental car as a normal deviation expense (vs. taxi, limo, etc.)
I didn't know the answer, and the contract only says "vendor for surface transportation" - kinda vague.
I never have tried it, but wondering if anyone else has ever done a rental car reimbursement (not during ITU - just on a regular deviation)??
As the soup nazi would put it---"NO CAR FOR YOU!"
FedEx doesn't want the insurance liability that goes with using rental cars instead of surface transportation. The surface transportation should be a separate "accepted fare" and not be included in the airline fare.
#10
No on the rental car
I spoke to DT in contract enforcement and he said rental cars are not an approved expense - I think it has to do with liability issues, insurance, etc.
These deviation loopholes need to be addressed in the next contract!! If this stuff is important to you, please forward your input to JG and the NC!!! If they don't get any input requesting to fill these potholes, they won't.
These deviation loopholes need to be addressed in the next contract!! If this stuff is important to you, please forward your input to JG and the NC!!! If they don't get any input requesting to fill these potholes, they won't.
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