iarapilot

Looking at 25P, if the trip was within the 9 hours, I would guess the Company is right.

airalaska

Well, I agree with you that something really terrible is happening but the truth is also that our volume declined by 40% during peek season and it is also true that we are considerably overmanned now. What are you proposing, to furlough people instead of reducing the BLG? That is a pretty idiotic and selfist idea. Get real for a moment, these are dire economic times and our product is a luxury and we are going to take a direct hit because companies that can't afford our product anymore are trimming expenses. These are times were we should hold together and reevaluate our situation, perhaps the frigant "Fair Treatment for Experienced Pilots Act" should be reconsidered and age 60 reinstated, perhaps people in MEM should stop flying disputed pairings and volunteer period. I agree our union is not showing any balls, all they care about is for the status quo of those really senior guys over 55, we pay them way too much money ($17,000,000/year) for nothing, perhaps it is also time for a new, lean and mean all cargo union and to take ALPA to the frigant retirement home. I am senior enough and I am not in danger of being furlough but I would gladly give 25% of my salary away so nobody has to be furlough. Any questions?

DiamondZ

Where did you get this information?

I have yet to see anything official from the company.

30 From Bottom

I have friends who are engineers (the locals guys at the stations) who say we broke a record on the 22nd-23rd, but, overall, we were down around 16%-20% during peak.
Still surprising that Fed Ex has not put any numbers out yet???

And, for all the guys out there that are senior and willing to take a paycut for me and the rest of the guys at the bottom on the list...Thank you!!!

airalaska

Hi, I think most of us are willing to get a reduced BLG, if required so nobody has to be furlough. Its not an official quote from the company and I should have said so, its just my opinion based on the the loads I have been flying and questions I have ask throughout peak to ramp leads and managers. Not scientific but I'll bet I will be pretty close when the actual numbers are revealed.

FreightDawgyDog

Yes. Here are a few..

Do you make it a habit of presenting your opinion as fact?

Have you called anyone in our union and asked for the figures they have?

How many bonuses have you been given when the company made record profits?

How much money has the company lost so far?

How much have they made the last 15 years?

Are you willing to take as pay cut every time in the future the company doesn't make as much as it wanted?

Have you even read JG's emails?

Do you have any clue how expensive it would be for this company to excess all pilots in the right positions to furlough?

Do you have any idea how long they would have to be out to break even on that mark?

If things are so bad that we all need to take a pay cut that far exceeds any other group in this company, why has this company ignored our offers of help with furlough mitigation strategies this last year?

That's enough for now but I have plenty of more questions for you when you finish these..

Thanks for the offer. Enquiring minds want to know!

I think most of us are more than wiling to share the pain to prevent a furlough. Are you willing to pay the price for management mistakes though? OOPS..that was meant for the next round of questions..

BTW..I am as upset about Age 60 and Retro as you and how it is now being used against us by the company to justify a pay cut. I even warned DW and crew of just such a possible scenario after his message telling us he was going against this groups wishes to get the over 60's back in the front seat. That and a quarter will get us all a hot cup of Jack Squat though and if we don't play this right we will all be living in a van down by the river

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Right now though we really do all need to stick together and make sure the contract is followed to it's original intent. I am quite positive the intent was not to allow the company to drop the word furlough and take away 30% of our pay. If the company really wants our help as far as I know the furlough mitigation offers are still on the table. Maybe you could ask your Rep when you call..

piper

i guess there is no world wide recession.

cnbc,wallstreet j. gdp numbers from china etc......
one big lie from the co. to take advantage of fdx pilots

Tractor Bob

Having been in the passenger business until furloughed and hired here at FDX, I've noticed a trend in management. When doom and gloom is preached, management will go for the low hanging fruit....i.e. the "over paid pilots" and any provision in their contract they can get away with destroying. Pick any legacy carrier and you will see the result. The difference is that those carriers were either in bankruptcy or on the brink, loosing billions before they came after the unions. We make millions in profit every quarter. We are over manned. The company will furlough when they think it is in the company's best interest. We shouldn't give an inch until the bankruptcy judge orders us to. I will be one of the first to go if the furlough happens, but I don't believe they have any intention of doing so. Which is why the reduced BLG is pure BS, smoke and mirrors.

Buddy of mine is a FDX driver and said they were swamped on overloaded from the 22nd thru the 27th. The engineers didn't see it coming. Said it started with not enough lift out of Memphis. Deafening silence about the Christmas loads.

"you hired us, you pay us" and "Full pay to the Last day"

Maybe now FDX pilots will stop drinking the coolaide.

HDawg

Ask O or any manager how much extra airlift Amazon needed ( the most parcels ever)...We will never hear peak numbers if it was bad it would be front page when you log in....

Bulletboy

I don't think this is the germane to the topic........

I think it is irresponsible for the company to create an atmosphere where seniority and aircraft will determine how much of a "sacrifice" you have to make.

I think it is irresponsible for the company to unilaterally interpret a section of the contract that will knowingly be grieved.

Fed Ex express carries the water for the FDX family.....how many "charges" has express taken from other FDX corp company's? Should I have to pay because someone doesn't want to make copies anymore?

The company likes class warfare in the pilot ranks. They love putting the lose, lose decisions on the pilot's and union's back.

Maybe the title of this thread should be "When will the company Do the right thing?"