NoKoolAid

Noser,

I too will lose my seat (727 Capt) and revert back to widebody F/O. After applying 48/60 to the new seat, it's almost a 50% pay cut.

I carry a copy of the TWO red letters sent to the crew force and have shared them with all crewmembers I fly with in times like these. Bottom line: we are a means to an end for the company and there is absolutley no respect or concern for us. Simply numbers on a sheet of paper to the bean counters and executives.

They are making a business decision.

I can do that too -- so can everyone else.

Let's never forget the most junior among us may take a 100% pay cut. To them I can only offer my hope that it will not occur and the resolute commitment to get them back ASAP if the "F-word" is implemented.

iarapilot

I cant find anything about that trip. What was the city pair, or any other info? I am curious to see who the LCA was that did it. We had some in SFS that did this quite a few times before.

PurpleTail

This is why I was saying...NO extra flying, NO draft, take your max vacation and most importantly if you bid carryover PROTECT MIN DAYS! This is the biggest factor, IMO, to increasing the manning numbers and reduce the number of potential furloughs.

If you are NOT protecting min days the following month, and essentially flying extra, you are doing more harm than good and telling the company we need one less pilot.

FR8Hauler

Gator,

I am going to give the MEC the benefit of the doubt on this one. I think we are at a point that goes beyond some of their own political aspirations. As this thread states we need to demand that they stand up and go toe to toe with the company. We are being tested and the bean counters who are making these decisions are counting on us to fold and go along with their half-baked plan. There is no way in hell they can operate this airline with a 48 hour blg. They might try to screw guys on reserve with it but they cannot operate the SIBA system or the MD-11 schedule on so few hours. We just need to hang tough.

noser

NKA,

Wasn't sure how long you have been here that is all. Also I am with you on this one. My last point about blood pressure was that we don't need to hart attacks from this so that they will win in the end. I had to take a day or two off from this (well I tried) so that I didn't end up in the hospital. As for the guys who will be on the street, I feel for them and will do whatever we need to do so that doesn't happen. I am in ANC and fly with most of them and hear how the feel all the time. It makes you remember who you are talking to when you start to b****.

Let's stay together and get this fixed!

Again thanks for your first post, it help in more ways then you will ever know.

Noser

FreightDawgyDog

Machiavelli

“Rule one: Never allow a crisis to go to waste,”

Rahm Emanuel, November 9, 2008 on current economic situation..

“Never allow a crisis to go to waste. They are opportunities to do big things.”

PC, December 31, 2008..

FCIF issued in the spirit of the above quotes


The real question here is will we waste this crisis or use it to earn the respect this management team clearly lacks for us as a group?

As an aside, please stop talking about furloughs until this company starts losing money and/or parking planes. Furloughs are not what this is about and spreading that fear only works against our cause and helps theirs. There are lots of good posts with good info out there. They are worthy of your attention and the attention of others. Also, try and always remember.."This too shall pass". Fly safe..

Time Off

It's in VIPS. Airbus trip as stated before. One leg, LAX-EWR that paid 19+04 at DRAFT rate.

MD11Fr8Dog

]5192/28Dec

Airbus Capt with CA areacode (916) on VAC all month gets an FO trip with DH to LAX for only trip of the month!

Most likely called when this dude called in sick in the field - 5191/29Dec

Still, no Airbus FOs that live in CA??

ExAF

No dog in this fight, just an interested concerned observer. I don't think you meant this to come across as I took it, but "kind of feeling the pain" with a displacement is no where near the pain the junior guys will feel with a 100% paycut!

Time Off

Exactly. That's my point. I live in CA, with those days off, and the phone never rang. I was home all day!