FDX-A game of chicken?
01-03-2009, 06:47 AM
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FDX is (at this time) furloughing no one. Management has said we are overmanned by ~700 pilots. They are planning to reduce hours below our floor of 68 hours on some acft to fix this. We have a floor of 48 hours before they can put someone on the street. They have not told us how much they are planning to reduce flying. A number closer to 68 than 48 is likely.
Our gripe is the language is vague but the intent was that all acft should be reduced somewhat equally. We know they can not fly their MadDog schedule below current levels.
Our gripe is the language is vague but the intent was that all acft should be reduced somewhat equally. We know they can not fly their MadDog schedule below current levels.
"The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60 CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent or delay a furlough."
...but furlough is in play...the lines built do not have to be 48/60 to furlough just the floor...in fact the day after furlough they could raise the lines back up...nothing in the contract about that...
01-03-2009, 06:50 AM
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01-03-2009, 07:21 AM
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BC is correct. Go back and read PC's letter. It says as plain as day: "In February, we expect average BLG's to be well above those minimums. "
As I have said numerous times before, MBPG does not equal BLG.
My guess is that average blg in feb on most of the bid packs will be around 60-62, and the 11 and hkg will be the same as Jan, which is not legal according to our MEC, and we will have to grieve it.
As I have said numerous times before, MBPG does not equal BLG.
My guess is that average blg in feb on most of the bid packs will be around 60-62, and the 11 and hkg will be the same as Jan, which is not legal according to our MEC, and we will have to grieve it.
01-03-2009, 07:32 AM
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They can announce a furlough at any time now...the floor has been reduced to 48/60 with PC's letter...they don't have to buy up lines now..
"The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60 CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent or delay a furlough."
...but furlough is in play...the lines built do not have to be 48/60 to furlough just the floor...in fact the day after furlough they could raise the lines back up...nothing in the contract about that...
"The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60 CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent or delay a furlough."
...but furlough is in play...the lines built do not have to be 48/60 to furlough just the floor...in fact the day after furlough they could raise the lines back up...nothing in the contract about that...
01-03-2009, 07:34 AM
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Let me preface this by saying that I am in the bottom 700 pilots on the list, and I would rather not be furloughed. Again. Nor would I like to see any of my coworkers furloughed.
Having said that, maybe the union should give FedEx the green light to furlough. Tell the company, that for now, we would rather keep the BLGs at 68 hours and lose 700 pilots. All with the intent of forcing their hand, running the numbers ($) involved and see what is more cost effective, buying up lines, or training, retraining, move packages, buying houses, etc. I believe it is the former. I believe that the company has no intent to furlough, thus their rationale for invoking 4.A.2.b becomes invalid.
This is a thin line to walk, and would require some outstanding brinkmanship on JGs part, but we may get the company to swerve out of the way before we do.
Just 2 cents...
Having said that, maybe the union should give FedEx the green light to furlough. Tell the company, that for now, we would rather keep the BLGs at 68 hours and lose 700 pilots. All with the intent of forcing their hand, running the numbers ($) involved and see what is more cost effective, buying up lines, or training, retraining, move packages, buying houses, etc. I believe it is the former. I believe that the company has no intent to furlough, thus their rationale for invoking 4.A.2.b becomes invalid.
This is a thin line to walk, and would require some outstanding brinkmanship on JGs part, but we may get the company to swerve out of the way before we do.
Just 2 cents...
If you say something long enough (furlough), people (sheep)start to believe it is necessary.
01-03-2009, 07:43 AM
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I was simply responding to a post that asked what was going on. I think I splained nicely.
Would you like to make a wager on whether or not the min blg is closer to 68 or 48. I feel a need to supplement my Feb income.
01-03-2009, 07:45 AM
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They can announce a furlough at any time now...the floor has been reduced to 48/60 with PC's letter...they don't have to buy up lines now..
"The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60 CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent or delay a furlough."
...but furlough is in play...the lines built do not have to be 48/60 to furlough just the floor...in fact the day after furlough they could raise the lines back up...nothing in the contract about that...
"The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60 CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent or delay a furlough."
...but furlough is in play...the lines built do not have to be 48/60 to furlough just the floor...in fact the day after furlough they could raise the lines back up...nothing in the contract about that...
See above post. I am well aware of the company and the union positions on contract language.
01-03-2009, 08:00 AM
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01-03-2009, 08:03 AM
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Got a source or is it speculation?
If they did get close to 48/60, averages would have to go back up to near normal after a furlough just to cover the flying. That would generate a serious grievance and perhaps private lawsuits.
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