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Old 11-01-2008, 11:44 AM
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Are there any Cargo carriers that currently, or have plans for the near future, to carry AED's (automated external defibrillator)?

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Old 11-01-2008, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JustUnderPar
Are there any Cargo carriers that currently, or have plans for the near future, to carry AED's (automated external defibrillator)?

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It'll probably be mandated in the near future... along with wheelchair access to the cockpit.
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It'll probably be mandated in the near future... along with wheelchair access to the cockpit.
It was an honest question....

The way I read the FAR's is every 121 carrier is suppose to have them installed. There is mention of 0-XX passengers, cargo carries 0 passengers so dont we fall into that category??? Just wondering.

Half way to PVG is not the place to need something like that.

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"Uncorrected, these cardiac conditions rapidly lead to irreversible brain damage and death. After approximately three to five minutes, [3]irreversible brain/tissue damage may begin to occur. For every minute that a person in cardiac arrest goes without being successfully treated (by defibrillation), the chance of survival decreases by 10 percent.[4]"
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Didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Xpress, but I believe UPS is a part119 carrier. YMMV

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Originally Posted by Trash Hauler 1
Didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Xpress, but I believe UPS is a part119 carrier. YMMV

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I think all airlines have to comply with part 119 regulations but I believe we operate part 121...

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Originally Posted by FrontSeat
it will not happen unless a manager dies enroute. Until then if you are just a line pilot you are better off dead in their eyes....
Until the volume ends up in Magadan, then they'll put paramedics onboard .
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Trash Hauler 1,

UPS is Certificated under Part 119. But operate 121.
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I just read in the newspaper the other day that a guy who was 47 died of an heart attack. He went into cardiac arrest and his heart wasn't pumping enough blood to allow his brain to maintain correct function. His heart then stopped completely about 7 minutes later and he was pronounced dead when the paramedics arrived. So you don't have to be old to need one of those things.

As some of you know, in July of 2007, I had just finished playing one game of racquetball and was sitting outside watching some friends play, when out of nowhere, with no warning at all, my heart went into cardiac arrest. It was continuing to beat, but irregularly and thankfully there was a medical doctor on the next court, who immediately started CPR, which I later found out, did nothing to restart my heart, but it did pump blood to my brain, which is the most important thing. Then my heart stopped entirely and I died. Thankfully, the club had a defibrillator, which they immediately hooked me up to. It self tested and then shocked me. It restarted my heart and brought it back to a normal rhythm, about the time the paramedics arrived. If I had been almost anywhere else when all that happened, I'd be dead right now. As a side note, I didn't see a bright light or any virgins. I awoke in the hospital, confused and not knowing anything that had happened to me. So thanks to the AED, I get to hang out here and put in my .02 cents every once in a while.

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Wow, lucky you.
My understanding is that it is extremely rare that CPR will restart the heart, the purpose is to keep oxygen flowing to the brain to minimize brain damage until someone can get some paddles.
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And take up space on the seniority list that will result in an additional furlough if and when that "threat" actually happens.
If you are that worried about those that may be furloughed, you can always step aside and let someone junior to you move up.
Get over age 60 already!! It happened and it's here to stay.
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