FDX - What happens at the BOD in Vegas should be itemized!
10-25-2008, 05:53 AM
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: FedEx
Posts: 666
Well, old fella (LOL), I agree on DW and his having any future power. It is not in anyone's best interest, except his.
Just a quick clarification..,,
There is a difference between Dues Check Off and Dues Check Off Non-Member. You and I are both on Dues Check Off....
Dues Check Off = All dues payers having monies taken from their check...
DCO Non-Members = People who pay something to ALPA, but choose to be Non-Members....
Once we became Agency Shop, your choices are only member vs. non member. No middle ground unless you go into management or some other unique employment status. In both cases, you must continue to pay through DCO. Failure to pay is grounds for termination.
So, change from within is the only option.
Hope that clears up what I was trying to post earlier...
Just a quick clarification..,,
There is a difference between Dues Check Off and Dues Check Off Non-Member. You and I are both on Dues Check Off....
Dues Check Off = All dues payers having monies taken from their check...
DCO Non-Members = People who pay something to ALPA, but choose to be Non-Members....
Once we became Agency Shop, your choices are only member vs. non member. No middle ground unless you go into management or some other unique employment status. In both cases, you must continue to pay through DCO. Failure to pay is grounds for termination.
So, change from within is the only option.
Hope that clears up what I was trying to post earlier...
Unless you happened to already be a non member, then there is the option of remaining so, and continuing to pay nothing.
Evidently protecting the "terms of employment" of the 200 or so who don't pay dues was more important than protecting the same for the 4500 or so who do.
Go figure.
FJ
10-25-2008, 06:25 AM
#42
Slainge Var'
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Zeppelin Tail Gunner
Posts: 1,530
On another note, is there any chance we can ever have a debate on this board without going to YGBSM or GMAFB within the first page? Is this how you guys talk in person?
I was going to start a chart, seeing how many posts it took in each thread here to have the word "turd" used in the argument.....
I was going to start a chart, seeing how many posts it took in each thread here to have the word "turd" used in the argument.....
10-25-2008, 09:24 AM
#44
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: 777 CA
Posts: 99
10-25-2008, 09:36 AM
#45
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: MD-11 Captain
Posts: 53
Guys,
I rarely post here, but I feel compelled to answer some of the posts in this thread. As someone who was there and has access to the budget, let me start by saying nothing was “over the top”. Yes there was a hospitality suite with free booze; it was paid for out of the pockets of the MEC and the MEC Officers to the tune of $250 each. No dues money was spent on alcohol.
The larger MECs such as ourselves, Delta, Northwest, and Continental as well as some of the smaller regional that combine, set up entertainment booths during the reception dinner. This is a tradition and a near requirement. Delta for example spent $60K flying in a Blues Brother tribute band; Northwest brought a Museum of their airlines history. FedEx MEC set up a jail cell made of wood and cardboard, had some tin cups made and printed out some subpoenas for some prominent members of the BOD (JP, DW, BC, JR, etc.) A mock trial for these people was the entertainment, they were then put in our Jail and had to raise bail money to be released. The cost of our display was about $4K, but the fines raised about $3k for the pilot relief fund.
FedEx is the only MEC with a financial oversight committee. All expenditures are reviewed for waste and rejected if found “over the top” or for that matter anywhere near the top.
Vic Liberti
Block 2 Rep
I rarely post here, but I feel compelled to answer some of the posts in this thread. As someone who was there and has access to the budget, let me start by saying nothing was “over the top”. Yes there was a hospitality suite with free booze; it was paid for out of the pockets of the MEC and the MEC Officers to the tune of $250 each. No dues money was spent on alcohol.
The larger MECs such as ourselves, Delta, Northwest, and Continental as well as some of the smaller regional that combine, set up entertainment booths during the reception dinner. This is a tradition and a near requirement. Delta for example spent $60K flying in a Blues Brother tribute band; Northwest brought a Museum of their airlines history. FedEx MEC set up a jail cell made of wood and cardboard, had some tin cups made and printed out some subpoenas for some prominent members of the BOD (JP, DW, BC, JR, etc.) A mock trial for these people was the entertainment, they were then put in our Jail and had to raise bail money to be released. The cost of our display was about $4K, but the fines raised about $3k for the pilot relief fund.
FedEx is the only MEC with a financial oversight committee. All expenditures are reviewed for waste and rejected if found “over the top” or for that matter anywhere near the top.
Vic Liberti
Block 2 Rep
10-25-2008, 10:38 AM
#48
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2007
Position: 777 Multi-tasker
Posts: 712
Guys,
I rarely post here, but I feel compelled to answer some of the posts in this thread. As someone who was there and has access to the budget, let me start by saying nothing was “over the top”. Yes there was a hospitality suite with free booze; it was paid for out of the pockets of the MEC and the MEC Officers to the tune of $250 each. No dues money was spent on alcohol.
The larger MECs such as ourselves, Delta, Northwest, and Continental as well as some of the smaller regional that combine, set up entertainment booths during the reception dinner. This is a tradition and a near requirement. Delta for example spent $60K flying in a Blues Brother tribute band; Northwest brought a Museum of their airlines history. FedEx MEC set up a jail cell made of wood and cardboard, had some tin cups made and printed out some subpoenas for some prominent members of the BOD (JP, DW, BC, JR, etc.) A mock trial for these people was the entertainment, they were then put in our Jail and had to raise bail money to be released. The cost of our display was about $4K, but the fines raised about $3k for the pilot relief fund.
FedEx is the only MEC with a financial oversight committee. All expenditures are reviewed for waste and rejected if found “over the top” or for that matter anywhere near the top.
Vic Liberti
Block 2 Rep
I rarely post here, but I feel compelled to answer some of the posts in this thread. As someone who was there and has access to the budget, let me start by saying nothing was “over the top”. Yes there was a hospitality suite with free booze; it was paid for out of the pockets of the MEC and the MEC Officers to the tune of $250 each. No dues money was spent on alcohol.
The larger MECs such as ourselves, Delta, Northwest, and Continental as well as some of the smaller regional that combine, set up entertainment booths during the reception dinner. This is a tradition and a near requirement. Delta for example spent $60K flying in a Blues Brother tribute band; Northwest brought a Museum of their airlines history. FedEx MEC set up a jail cell made of wood and cardboard, had some tin cups made and printed out some subpoenas for some prominent members of the BOD (JP, DW, BC, JR, etc.) A mock trial for these people was the entertainment, they were then put in our Jail and had to raise bail money to be released. The cost of our display was about $4K, but the fines raised about $3k for the pilot relief fund.
FedEx is the only MEC with a financial oversight committee. All expenditures are reviewed for waste and rejected if found “over the top” or for that matter anywhere near the top.
Vic Liberti
Block 2 Rep
thanks for standing up.... I'm sure most will agree, all we want is an explanation of what's going on. The last few years have been clouded with secrecy and a profound lack of communication, which has lead to distrust and division in the crew force.
What you're describing seems well within the boundaries of reasonableness, and like others have said here, you guys really do deserve a deal every now and then. Glad you made us look good. I'm satisfied with your explanation. Maybe when we have more unifying and transparent leadership from the top, you won't get questions like this.
thanks
jag
Thanks Vic
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