Check 6

Huh? Are you saying that by deviating and going to where you want and then showing up for work on time that "somehow" you have screwed the CO because the contract does not "intend" this?

Sorry, but the contract says 3 days...nothing else....so my intent is to use the bank to make my life easier

PS name one instance where "intent" has ever been used by the Co to the pilot's advantage...?

jagplt

dude.......

Gunter

You believe we are the cause of management's decision to unilaterally change the accepted fare system so that deviators get less money than non-deviators for travel?

I've heard about this. It's called Stockholm syndrome

Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gunter

Has anyone considered that this thread might have been started by someone on a pfishing expedition?

Gunter

Anyone wondering about whether or not false expense report claims can result in termination should contact ALPA. Also read the fine print at the bottom before hitting "submit" on the expense report. IMHO, always be prepared to explain to your ACP why you claimed what you did.

Last message line I read said ALPA successfully "saved" someone's job after an expense report investigation.

Jetjok

There is NO question that falsification of expense reports is a fire-able offense. It's happened before, to a number of senior captains. ALPA or any other union will be very hard pressed to save the job of someone who is defrauding the company. And unfortunately, ignorance of the rules probably will not save someone.

fly2ski

Agree with JJ. I know guys do it but is it really worth a multi-million dollar career? If your Senior to me go for it. I know guys that are so paranoid that they pay for their uniforms. Losing your job over 500$ airline ticket is just plain stupid.

whiskeytalkin

well,

I spoke with D*** today in contract enforcement. He too was unsure, but finally decided the end would have to touch MEM, but obviously could originate anywhere.

thx for all the input.

jagplt

Guess that depends on who you are.

Calling to complete your trip deviation, "in position", when you're about 4000 miles away. Intentionally falsifying the record, willfully violating the FAR's, one would think that may get you fired.. nah....

Underdog

I agree. I only wonder why it only seems to be a one way street. One would think that a deliberate falsification of a flight release would be grounds for dismissal...nah. After a rejected takeoff and rather lengthy ground delay to fix aircraft, the company sent us a new release. This was about 4 hours after our first release, and knowing that our drop dead time was coming up before our 9.5 hour flight. Amazingly, the flight time was 30 minutes quicker than the previous release. Of course that made us barely legal to continue. More amazingly was the fact that nothing had changed. Not the flight altitude, cruise mach, winds at altitude, only the flight time and scheduled block had changed...hmmm. But the DC-10 CP did acknowledge "they're not supposed to do that." Sure wish it was that easy when we screw up..."I know, I know, I wasn't supposed to do that."

By the way, that was the second time that had happened to me. The first time was a couple years prior where they magically decreased the flight time by exactly one hour on a 6:45 scheduled flight. Does this occur to anybody else?