777 Pay= Airbus Pay FDX
10-12-2008, 09:56 AM
#151
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Yeah Gunter I know..
But on a serious note.... I'm sure the Union Leadership would not pass such a LOA to the membership for a vote because it would violate the contract rules for bidding and seniority. ... would they?
Yeah.. I and a whole lot of other folks are dreaming. We'll just have to grin a bear it for now. Senority still comes with time.. doesn't it?
But on a serious note.... I'm sure the Union Leadership would not pass such a LOA to the membership for a vote because it would violate the contract rules for bidding and seniority. ... would they?
Yeah.. I and a whole lot of other folks are dreaming. We'll just have to grin a bear it for now. Senority still comes with time.. doesn't it?
10-12-2008, 05:20 PM
#153
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I wonder why mgt and/or ALPA hasn't seen the need to "push" this answer out to the crewforce...
I think it's another vital piece of information all the players should openly know/understand before the 777 bid comes out.
Any lurkers/"folks in the know" care to chime in?
Thanks in advance!
10-13-2008, 09:05 AM
#154
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At the last two union meetings that I went to, Fred stated that they are in talks with the company to address the bidding issue of +60 pilots in relation to international lines. They want the Capt to bid and be awarded the line, then the +60 F/O would not be legal to bid the line.
10-13-2008, 10:47 AM
#156
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If you read the FAA restriction, it basically restricts the Capt, not the F/O so some say that the Capt should be the one who cannot bid the line if there is an F/O on it. Either way would abrogate seniority. There really is not a great way to keep seniority in check, but at least with the Capt being awarded the line, then if the F/O was senior to the Capt he could upgrade to Capt.....
10-13-2008, 11:23 AM
#159
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It can only be a "mute" point if somebody makes it, but nobody can hear it. However, it could be a "moot" point soon if we could all agree on the definition of "soon". Pushing ICAO to do something quickly can be like trying to steer a glacier, lots of effort with no results. Maybe FH or JJ can fill us in on APAAD's take on the future for this restriction.
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