dckozak

Gotta been working some angle to make that money in the Jurassic jet

captain_drew

You know how senior I was.

It only averages $17,461 . . on a 13 paycheck schedule . . per month. A VLT here . . a VLT there. . couple $25K-26K months . .takes up some slack <G>

TonyC

I didn't pay much attention to yhis post the first time I read it, but when you began disparaging the MEC Chairman on another thread I decided to study your posts more carefully. Let me now take this opportunity to correct your assertion.


Flex Instructors work 15 days in a 4-week bid month and 19 in a 5-week bid month. Any extra days worked in the schoolhouse are paid at R-day value times 1.5.

You claim an individual worked "most of" "26 days a month" at "time and a half." That, by your claim, would amount to at least 14 days a month at time and a half, and therefore an average of 12 or fewer days a month at straight time. Well, clearly you have some things mixed up.


This, along with your growing list of attack posts is starting to whittle away at your credibility.


Which makes me wonder... how many current FedEx pilots would think of themselves as FEC pilots? That's an old term, and I don't hear it used much any more. What's your story? Management? Non-member? Personal gripe? What makes you so unhappy?





- The truth only hurts if it should -

fecav8r

To be honest with you, I am very happy right now. I would like a contract as much as anyone. I go by the tag of FEC because I have used it for years in many different venues, so call me old school. As far as attacks I think the only one I have attacked in this forum has been Drew. I knew him while he was at FedEx and I know him to be a cancerous malcontent who did everything he could to make this profession and this company, both of which I happen to care very much about, a mockery. I flew with him as a young SO who thought he had hit the lottery. He told me I was an idiot for coming to FedEx. I should go to a real airline like Delta or American. Well, the guys who went to those airlines when I came to FedEx are now calling me for a rec. Even if they aren't furloughed yet they still realize we are the best airline out there. Right now. So I apologze for the attacks and will refrain from them in the future. I just ask the same consideration from the rest of the group for everyone else. I have seen Cheever, Smith, Chimenti, and a host of others from both sides of the table being slammed. And this is the first time I have read a rebuttal

captain_drew

Transation= I am/was a pro union guy who wanted to see this pilot group get the VERY best contract it could. My malcontentment was always aimed at those who would tear down our wages, benefits and work rules. NOT the bottom line.

Translation= Those of you who ‘were there’ will remember this particular time in our history. This young gentleman was one of the ‘I am just so happy to be here herd’ -which diluted our union’s strength at a time we needed to muster all the ‘unity’ we could. Any commentary I might have made to him was in this light.

His willingness to come here (and not another airline) at that particular contentious time did not bode well for our negotiation position. It seems he has not changed much since then, in spite of my coaching. <g> HE. .and his ilk are what you need to be concerned about . .a cancer within, which management knows how to manipulate.

THIS is the profile of the guy in your ranks you have to be worried about. He will cross any future picket line.

notanewguy

I see a psych eval is still warranted

viktorbravo

Thats a good analogy of the UPS manglement. My advice to anyone trying to get on with both carriers is to go with one that hires you, and if its UPS, then keep trying to get on with FedEx. The only folks that will tell you they are happy with UPS are the managers and thats only because they are good liars. After you see first hand the kind of crap that goes on at UPS you will realize that UPS stands for United Pot Smokers. FWIW.

Freightpuppy

Why don't all you miserable people quit then so I can hold a line please?

Yes, there are many things that can be better at UPS but I am happy with it.

viktorbravo

The short of it is that I am not in a position to quit just yet, a few more years maybe, hang in there If I was happy with my working conditions and schedule I wouldnt care if we ever got another contract, nor would I be trying to become financially independent from the UPS paycheck. However I for one am not happy with our schedules. Not happy with deadheading for over 14 hours duty and 2 legs on a cramped 767 freighter to some point in Asia to get less than 10 hours in the hotel before the next ball buster duty period, not happy with flipping the body clock from day to night multiple times in one pairing, not happy with having to do a carpet dance when I call in fatigued after multiple 13 to 15 hr. duty nights with min rest in between, not happy with having to go into a disciplinary hearing for refusing to fly an aircraft with obvious mtc issues, not happy with returning from a 14 day 85 hr. pac rim hostage crisis only to get turned into a domestic stuffer trip with less than 24 hours off. I'm willing to stick it out a couple of more contracts to see if we can fix some of these issues. Flying that stuff is starting to take a toll on me and my attitude and I cant see doing it until age 60 or God forbid age 65. So I am trying to position myself where if I finally say that I've had enough I can just walk off the jet and go home if things dont improve. Yes we have it way better than some other places out there, but there is an awful lot of room for improvement to make this a viable 30 year career where you will not drop dead a year after retirement. Of course YMMV and I hope mine does too eventually, but not counting on it.

FreightDawg2

Okay, I'll BIte....WHEN has ANYONE ever been disciplined for not taking an airplane with maintenance issues? You must be thinking of Rosenbaum or Kalitta, but not here!