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Old 09-23-2008, 04:30 PM
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What is it, exactly, that we want Danny to do?
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You guessed wrong, my friend. I've been going to the" F Street" since 1987. And yes, I remember Kimmy. How could I forget? I happened to end up with her credit card in my pocket when I got back to JFK, after one memorable layover.

But, my point was...You condemned the owner of this establishment for something he had no direct control over. Without even hearing his response to the charges. That's wrong.

He offered to fire the offensive waitress. "Slice" said no? Are you kidding me? If I were Danny, I would now have to question exactly how bad the situation was. From reading the "skinny", I would have had her arrested.
PM me. I'll give you my number or meet me for a beer tonight if your in ANC. I believe what goes around comes around. I have one of the best jobs in aviation, she is a white trash talking waitress in a bar in ANC. Karma's a *****, ain't it? I never condemned Danny for the attack, only the treatment afterwards by his staff. He knows both sides now, he can or could have made the changes. He's the General of his establishment, so ultimately he is responsible for their behavior. If I were him, I would have made the changes after I saw the surveillance video.
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Originally Posted by marco
How about amping it up a bit by writing a letter to the editor of the Anchorage Daily News:Letters | adn.com

That might get some attention!

Off-duty pilots getting decked in an ANC bar ... not much of a story.

Unless of course they were soon to report for a flight, which wasn't the case.
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Originally Posted by Busboy

He offered to fire the offensive waitress. "Slice" said no? Are you kidding me? If I were Danny, I would now have to question exactly how bad the situation was. From reading the "skinny", I would have had her arrested.
He actually said "what do you want me to do, fire her?" Initially I said yes. He then explained that she's worked there for years and asked if I could forgive her. That's when I said "I guess so". Not really an offer to fire her and asking me to forgive her so he wouldn't have to. A little different than your interpretation.
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May I assume there are female pilots in ANC? Do they go to this dive bar? Anything happen to them? Are they treated differently?
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Originally Posted by Slice
He actually said "what do you want me to do, fire her?" Initially I said yes. He then explained that she's worked there for years and asked if I could forgive her. That's when I said "I guess so". Not really an offer to fire her and asking me to forgive her so he wouldn't have to. A little different than your interpretation.
My misinterpretation was based on your earlier post. Sorry. That is a horse of a different color.

Having said that...I believe that your lack of either pressing charges or, at the very least, asking him to fire her is a mistake. You say that it doesn't matter, because you're never going there again. Well, what about those that do go there again? Now, she and everyone else that works there will think it must be OK to slap a customer.

What did you ask him to do?

I don't think this should be discussed in a PM. Since this entire forum seems intent on burning the place down, now.
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I know, It's me...but let me finish......thanks... I used to frequent PANC and in my early days F-St was a mainstay....but for the last 10 years I have not been in. And due to this thread I will not EVER return. Thank you Slice for bringing it to the forefront. PANC has so much more to offer, let F close up and move along. We will always find a home in PANC, with someone that loves us...Brown, Purple, or otherwise.....
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Originally Posted by Busboy
My misinterpretation was based on your earlier post. Sorry. That is a horse of a different color.

Having said that...I believe that your lack of either pressing charges or, at the very least, asking him to fire her is a mistake. You say that it doesn't matter, because you're never going there again. Well, what about those that do go there again? Now, she and everyone else that works there will think it must be OK to slap a customer.

What did you ask him to do?

I don't think this should be discussed in a PM. Since this entire forum seems intent on burning the place down, now.
My point of my going there to speak with him wasn't about wanting anything. It was about explaining my side of what happened the other night to make sure he had the full story. It's not my job or right to tell him how to run his business. What would he have to do to win my patronage back? Change at least a few of his staff and do what ever bar owners do to attract a different crowd in the evenings. Even with that I wouldn't be back anytime soon. I didn't walk in with a list of demands. He didn't offer to make any real changes. So, to me that would suggest not going there if you're opposed to who he employs and the late night crowd that hangs there. Pretty simple really.
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Originally Posted by Busboy
My misinterpretation was based on your earlier post. Sorry. That is a horse of a different color.

Having said that...I believe that your lack of either pressing charges or, at the very least, asking him to fire her is a mistake. You say that it doesn't matter, because you're never going there again. Well, what about those that do go there again? Now, she and everyone else that works there will think it must be OK to slap a customer.

What did you ask him to do?

I don't think this should be discussed in a PM. Since this entire forum seems intent on burning the place down, now.

Not Slice, but party to the exchange unfortunately ...

If the owner would have admitted that his staff screwed up that night. He sorta' did in a round about way. That would be a start.

If he informed them how to deal with the situation more effectively next time. Even better.

They have possibly exposed him to legal action, he didn't seem overly concerned.

He seems content to brush it under the rug, am I wrong Slice ?


I guess what I am saying, on any given night, if you happen to be the one knocked on your can at F Street, don't expect the staff to handle it any differently than our experience.


THAT is what I am NOT OK with !

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All this reading is making me thirsty. I'm going to Darwins
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