F Street Station: The skinny
09-25-2008, 07:46 AM
#171
Living the dream!
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: MD-11 Capt
Posts: 915
Well, I have been there til closing many times (except the nights I had to drag someone out before they made a total a$$ of themselves) and have never had a problem. I don't get treated like I'm invisible and always get good service. Must be those small tips I leave.
Even in the dead of winter the "pilot crowd" is there from maybe 5 to 7 and very rarely are they the majority. Yes, the crowd can get ugly later on and you always take the chance of someone not liking you or your act (goes for any bar in ANC).
Sorry about you and your pals having a bad night and being treated poorly but I really don't think they will miss your business Just my opinion
Even in the dead of winter the "pilot crowd" is there from maybe 5 to 7 and very rarely are they the majority. Yes, the crowd can get ugly later on and you always take the chance of someone not liking you or your act (goes for any bar in ANC).
Sorry about you and your pals having a bad night and being treated poorly but I really don't think they will miss your business Just my opinion
I know they are going to miss my $100 or so bucks Sunday. It use to be fun to go in around 5 and see who was in town, check the special, and to see if Kimmy had her drug fix or not. At least she was fun to watch (from a distance) I know many got much closer. I'm sure being poked and proded by hundreds of pilots contributed to her demeaner.
Slice, how old are you guys? Was this kid picking on the elderly?
Bottom line F-Street never gives any of us a good deal it's just a good location. Anyone ever, ever get a free beer there? My point, most of us condsidered F-street like your local bar when we are in ANC, but I had a guy point out years ago that F-Street never treats us like they appreciate our business.
So where do we start the night now? Guys are going to go where they know people (the Cheers effect) Why don't one of you smart APC guys start a poll and let's pick a new 5pm meeting place.
Hurry though, I'll be there on Sunday!
09-25-2008, 08:09 AM
#172
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: MD-11 Captain
Posts: 320
"I agree, there's no shortage of immature testosterone here. No wonder they get into bar fights."
Never been in a bar fight and never will. As far as the guys that got hit, how many times do you have to read it wasn't a fight, it was an unprovoked assault? Thanks so much for your mature response where all you do is call names and make baseless accusations. Pot, kettle..you know the rest..
Never been in a bar fight and never will. As far as the guys that got hit, how many times do you have to read it wasn't a fight, it was an unprovoked assault? Thanks so much for your mature response where all you do is call names and make baseless accusations. Pot, kettle..you know the rest..
09-25-2008, 08:29 AM
#173
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 167
Has anyone considered getting Danny's E-mail and sending him the LINK to this THREAD? It IS in the public domain -and anyone who can 'find' it can read it.
After he reads a few pages of this and mentally does the math of all the lost airline and AF pilot business he is about to sustain; perhaps his 'businessman's sensibilities' might kick in?
The very least, reading the ripping he is taking here will give him a good case of well-deserved heartburn!
Think about it.
Last edited by W0XOFF; 09-25-2008 at 08:47 AM. Reason: correction
09-25-2008, 08:53 AM
#174
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 167
Having worked as a bartender between Active Duty and a flying job, I can attest that owner's 'pour' costs are REALLY cheap and there is a LOT of money in the bar business.
Of course, the fact that it might be a 'good investment' probably precludes pilots from getting involved, I guess
09-25-2008, 10:01 AM
#175
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Joined APC: Sep 2005
Position: Any, usually behind the wing
Posts: 382
Interesting thread..as someone who has been on the periphery and at the aftermath of various barfights in the past (in varying official and personal capacities) I will repeat that getting involved in one is not a smart idea. Things can spin out of control very quickly and with disastrous results. No one wants to lose their medical because they were hanging out at the wrong place and got hurt, and well-bars will be bars. That said, this was an out and out assault. And no, I don't have a dog in this fight and won't get to ANC anytime soon. So Cactus and Slice have been kind enough to warn you.
As for sending the bar owner a link to this board- why bother? Based on several posts on this boards, it is clear he doesn't care and it obviously won't change things. Perhaps it might cause pilots visiting ANC more grief. Unless it's the only gig in town, which it is apparently not, why beg him to fix it? Take your money elsewhere. Even if he only loses $100 a night in recievables, that's starting to push $40K per year. Money talks, that's why lawsuits, or the threat of a lawsuit are tools of choice in this kingdom.
Question- If F Street fails, THEN where will the lowlifes hang-out?
FWIW- hang in groups, take over your own bar, use caution, have an emergency plan, and maybe most importantly, only drink heavily with people you know well. That way you won't find out someone's belligerent after a few and then you have to deal with the fallout. Well that and if you are going to have one too many you want to be with someone who will help a friend, etc.
Finally, I don't think I'm drinking with Jungle either.
P.S. Glad nobody got seriously hurt.
As for sending the bar owner a link to this board- why bother? Based on several posts on this boards, it is clear he doesn't care and it obviously won't change things. Perhaps it might cause pilots visiting ANC more grief. Unless it's the only gig in town, which it is apparently not, why beg him to fix it? Take your money elsewhere. Even if he only loses $100 a night in recievables, that's starting to push $40K per year. Money talks, that's why lawsuits, or the threat of a lawsuit are tools of choice in this kingdom.
Question- If F Street fails, THEN where will the lowlifes hang-out?
FWIW- hang in groups, take over your own bar, use caution, have an emergency plan, and maybe most importantly, only drink heavily with people you know well. That way you won't find out someone's belligerent after a few and then you have to deal with the fallout. Well that and if you are going to have one too many you want to be with someone who will help a friend, etc.
Finally, I don't think I'm drinking with Jungle either.
P.S. Glad nobody got seriously hurt.
Last edited by OldAg84; 09-25-2008 at 10:09 AM. Reason: Grammar
09-25-2008, 10:03 AM
#176
Slainge Var'
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Zeppelin Tail Gunner
Posts: 1,530
10-20 guys posting, hundreds reading, many more spreading the word. I think you underestimate the power of a grass roots movement by people who feel they have been wronged. All you have to do, is walk by F St., if you see someone you know, tell them you are going to XYZ and ask them to come along (then tell them why). On the flight in, set up a meeting place at somewhere other than F St. and then tell your crew why.
09-25-2008, 10:59 AM
#177
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,874
10-20 guys posting, hundreds reading, many more spreading the word. I think you underestimate the power of a grass roots movement by people who feel they have been wronged. All you have to do, is walk by F St., if you see someone you know, tell them you are going to XYZ and ask them to come along (then tell them why). On the flight in, set up a meeting place at somewhere other than F St. and then tell your crew why.
09-25-2008, 12:02 PM
#178
With The Resistance
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
Posts: 6,191
Interesting thread..as someone who has been on the periphery and at the aftermath of various barfights in the past (in varying official and personal capacities) I will repeat that getting involved in one is not a smart idea. Things can spin out of control very quickly and with disastrous results. No one wants to lose their medical because they were hanging out at the wrong place and got hurt, and well-bars will be bars. That said, this was an out and out assault. And no, I don't have a dog in this fight and won't get to ANC anytime soon. So Cactus and Slice have been kind enough to warn you.
As for sending the bar owner a link to this board- why bother? Based on several posts on this boards, it is clear he doesn't care and it obviously won't change things. Perhaps it might cause pilots visiting ANC more grief. Unless it's the only gig in town, which it is apparently not, why beg him to fix it? Take your money elsewhere. Even if he only loses $100 a night in recievables, that's starting to push $40K per year. Money talks, that's why lawsuits, or the threat of a lawsuit are tools of choice in this kingdom.
Question- If F Street fails, THEN where will the lowlifes hang-out?
FWIW- hang in groups, take over your own bar, use caution, have an emergency plan, and maybe most importantly, only drink heavily with people you know well. That way you won't find out someone's belligerent after a few and then you have to deal with the fallout. Well that and if you are going to have one too many you want to be with someone who will help a friend, etc.
Finally, I don't think I'm drinking with Jungle either.
P.S. Glad nobody got seriously hurt.
As for sending the bar owner a link to this board- why bother? Based on several posts on this boards, it is clear he doesn't care and it obviously won't change things. Perhaps it might cause pilots visiting ANC more grief. Unless it's the only gig in town, which it is apparently not, why beg him to fix it? Take your money elsewhere. Even if he only loses $100 a night in recievables, that's starting to push $40K per year. Money talks, that's why lawsuits, or the threat of a lawsuit are tools of choice in this kingdom.
Question- If F Street fails, THEN where will the lowlifes hang-out?
FWIW- hang in groups, take over your own bar, use caution, have an emergency plan, and maybe most importantly, only drink heavily with people you know well. That way you won't find out someone's belligerent after a few and then you have to deal with the fallout. Well that and if you are going to have one too many you want to be with someone who will help a friend, etc.
Finally, I don't think I'm drinking with Jungle either.
P.S. Glad nobody got seriously hurt.
Good advice, life is too short to waste on dive bars and dive girls. I am always very mild mannered until assault with intent heads my way.
It won't find me in a bar though.
09-25-2008, 02:13 PM
#179
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: ANC-Based MD-11 FO
Posts: 328
I recommend as many as possible post a review at:
Anchorage Bar and Night Club Recommendations and Reviews on Citysearch
Not sure how widely known the site is, but it is at least something we can do that might reach non-pilots.
Anchorage Bar and Night Club Recommendations and Reviews on Citysearch
Not sure how widely known the site is, but it is at least something we can do that might reach non-pilots.
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