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Old 09-15-2008, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy

You guys are smokin some pretty good crack if you think this compnay doesn't care if even 1 airplane diverts due to lack of fuel reserves. Or for any reason, for that matter. I guarantee you that someone must answer for that.
And you're smoking out of Tyrone Biggums personal stash if you think that the company doesn't have internal metrics that measure the risk of service failure for whatever reason against things like fuel reserves, reserve staffing, tighter deadheads, etc. Just because they don't share it with us doesn't mean it's not there. Sure someone has to answer when things go badly, but if they go badly within whatever parameters the company deems acceptable, no one's losing their head over it.
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Old 09-15-2008, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso
And you're smoking out of Tyrone Biggums personal stash if you think that the company doesn't have internal metrics that measure the risk of service failure for whatever reason against things like fuel reserves, reserve staffing, tighter deadheads, etc. Just because they don't share it with us doesn't mean it's not there. Sure someone has to answer when things go badly, but if they go badly within whatever parameters the company deems acceptable, no one's losing their head over it.
No kidding? I had no idea. Wow. Thanks. That's a real eye opener.

I was responding to this post:

Originally Posted by pilot141
Don't know if this has been brought up before, but someone mentioned diverts.

If you divert (because, say, we are landing south at The planet and ATC is behind the power curve) that does NOT count against the Fuel Sense numbers.

They do not take penalties when they tweak the fuel too tightly and we end up bailing out to maintain a margin of safety.

Just food for thought when looking at your next FP/R.
So, you're thinking that if "we are landing south at the Planet" and 30 airplanes divert because of low fuel, due to fuel sense...No one is going to lose their head?

I wonder what the company's internal metrics said the risk would be of ramping up the optimizer, back in Mook's day?

And, I would still argue that even 1 airplane diverting due to low fuel, or any other reason, is going to cause someone to have to answer why?
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Old 09-15-2008, 05:27 PM
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No kidding? I had no idea. Wow. Thanks. That's a real eye opener.
I didn't think it was all that amazing either, but it seemed like you were responding to a group of posts including mine which is why I responded. I was mistaken and apologize to you and Mr. Biggums.

So, you're thinking that if "we are landing south at the Planet" and 30 airplanes divert because of low fuel, due to fuel sense...No one is going to lose their head?
Absolutely not, someone would be in for it because I'm sure that would be considered unacceptable by whatever means the company uses to measure these things.

I wonder what the company's internal metrics said the risk would be of ramping up the optimizer, back in Mook's day?
I would say the results were outside of what was predicted and deemed acceptable by the company and the outcome reflected that.

I would still argue that even 1 airplane diverting due to low fuel, or any other reason, is going to cause someone to have to answer why?
I'm sure they do, but if everything was planned 'properly' according to the company's ideas/goals, no one is getting canned over it. I'm sure they, like all of the other companies doing the same thing, are aware of the risk of diverts and don't expect things to be 100% with this stuff. For fairly obvious reasons, I doubt they will be telling us that though.
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Old 09-15-2008, 07:16 PM
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FDX sucks. They aren't hiring!
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Old 09-15-2008, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stupidpilot
FDX sucks. They aren't hiring!
Got the correct screen name dontcha.
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:26 PM
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Got the correct screen name dontcha.
Isn't that one of the key interview questions? 'What screen name(s) do you post under in the Forums online?'

Obviously, if you are 'young' and have been striving for a flying job for a while, you have left an electronic 'trail' that is easily Googled . .and if you say; 'I don't do that.' They KNOW you are lying!

End of interview . . AND if you say you are a 'stupidpilot' . .sheet man . . end of discussion!
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Old 09-16-2008, 05:44 AM
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26K for 08' so... going to catch you MD11F8dog!

Captain says I can't credit for it.
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:57 AM
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FDX sucks. They aren't hiring!
Please post your real name and SS# so that we can all put in recommendations for you.

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Old 09-16-2008, 03:53 PM
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26K for 08' so... going to catch you MD11F8dog!

Captain says I can't credit for it.
The best part is, I wasn't even trying! I hardly EVER add fuel, and only once have I been close to diverting and I had tanker fuel on that one!
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:31 PM
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Do I get a special meeting with my ACP of the week for being in the red? My history shows I'm in the red for 10,801 lbs in '08.
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