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09-14-2008, 06:06 AM

#11

Huck

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I had an old Pan Am guy tell me once - when they start talking about fuel savings, it's the beginning of the end.....

09-14-2008, 07:34 AM

#12

Busdrivr

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Just want to know if mine is bigger than yours. My 2008 savings is 16,908"

09-14-2008, 07:40 AM

#13

Airbum

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetjok

Sorry, I misspoke. It's actually FCIF 08-0524 (Vital), and again I say, although I'm not convinced there's mischief afoot, there certainly is the potential.

I'm not a FX guy but find this interesting. At UPS its rumored that they keep track but don't make it public if they do. In the past some Captains have been called in asking why their ops tempo has so changed during negotiations.

Letting the company misdirect our goals into cost savings instead of safety will come back to haunt us.

09-14-2008, 08:48 AM

#14

MaxKts

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Busdrivr

Just want to know if mine is bigger than yours. My 2008 savings is 16,908"

Damn - I thought I was doing good only being 400 in the red

09-14-2008, 09:17 AM

#15

FR8Hauler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MD10PLT

I just checked mine and was at least 2,000 lbs over on all the +8 hour flights. So the question is; is it my flying or is the planned fuel too low.

I think the solution is to fly a lot slower on the +8 hour flights. We all know this saves the most gas.

Excellent idea!

09-14-2008, 09:55 AM

#16

HazCan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FR8Hauler

Excellent idea!

I thought we were doing this already?!

09-14-2008, 04:23 PM

#17

MD11Fr8Dog

...Whatever It Is!

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My Savings for 2008 (lbs) 30986

09-14-2008, 06:33 PM

#18

Dadof6

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Coming next month...

Coming next month, a new tracker: My Diverts (due to low fuel)

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09-14-2008, 09:09 PM

#19

W0XOFF

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MD10PLT

You are taking the entirely wrong perspective on all of this.

Fly slower on the 'almost' . .or 'close to' 8 hour block time domestic flights . . which we all know are based upon the 'historic' .84, .85, .86 -'balls to the wall' -'can do', 'Absolutely, Positively' spirit here.

Let's see how long it takes the bean counters to figure out if replacing several '8 in 24' crews is cheaper than the fuel it takes to 'get the boxes where they need to be in the time alloted.

09-14-2008, 11:54 PM

#20

pilot141

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Don't know if this has been brought up before, but someone mentioned diverts.

If you divert (because, say, we are landing south at The planet and ATC is behind the power curve) that does NOT count against the Fuel Sense numbers.

They do not take penalties when they tweak the fuel too tightly and we end up bailing out to maintain a margin of safety.

Just food for thought when looking at your next FP/R.