MaydayMark

I hope this isn't true? If we can confirm this, we need to make a flier and stuff it in EVERYONE'S locker. If necessary, I'll pay for it.

Is it possible that a "dispatcher" is a person with "special skills" and pilots aren't? Come on ... not even FoxHunter logic could come to that conclusion?

Gunter

Let's make a DVD.

AFW_MD11

http://www.jobsdb.com/HK/EN/Job.asp?...PageNo=1&27582

or www.jobsdb.com and search for "Fedex Express"

in addition to the GOC specialist, there's also another listing for an auditor - with additional benefits listed.

both require speaking (fluent) Mandarin and English

both are salary - negotiable

skypine27

From what I gather now, the company put the DVD out. Obviously trying to get fill the FO side on the next bid.

However, if our Union "leaders" had that thing called "a spine" it would counter with a blanket email about why people should NOT bid HKG: Unknown Schedules, Poor Housing Allowance, Horrendous Air Quality, No Tuition Assistance, Tiny Household Goods Move, Public Transportation to and From Work, etc....

AL E NEWMAN

Sounds alot like when LAX first opened up as a domicile, how about an allowance for them?

skypine27

I agree California is expensive, as is Alaska which is why UPS DOES give their ANC new hires a COLA.

However, though still not cheap, at least LAX is:
* In the continental United States of America
* Has the option of easily commuting from cheaper places.
* Does not require a public train ride to and from work
* Allows you and your family to have car(s) w/o being cost prohibitive
* Allows your children to attend public schools, free of cost.
* Affords the ability for you to cheaply rent a U-Haul and bring more than 1000lbs to furnish your new house or apartment
* Does not make keeping in touch with your friends, family, outside business interests, etc... extremely difficult.

Should I go on?

FDXAV8R

I can't believe the union pushed this LOA so hard. Another scary thing is the STV provision. The union actually thought it was acceptable to click on crew notifications and be sent overseas for 3 months. I know it was changed to 1 month-- even a one month involuntary posting is unacceptable. STV is just a fancy name for junior manning (and our union allowed it into an agreement we signed). If the company paid a reasonable rate--no if our union had the "nuts and guts" to leverage our 94% contract vote to force the company to give us a reasonable LOA, we could staff HKG and fill any temporary shortages like we always have here at FDX--Draft & Volunteer!! Instead we gave them an out, if they can't intimidate us (furlough, excess bids, scary emails) into filling HKG they can force crewmembers to go for a month at a time. Watch out on the next contract, I'm sure the company would love to implement STV everywhere. STV a.ka. junior manning would eliminate all draft and volunteer, and it would ensure the only guaranteed days off would be sick or vacation.

FDXAV8R

These are the same guys who went around telling us what a great deal it was. They went from hub meeting to hub meeting telling us it was more than adequate,a landmark agreement. Scope! The word is not even mentioned in the agreement. How about "show me the money!" I'm sick of hearing excuses. We should not be bringing a B-scale on the property in order to help the company open up what is surely forecast to be its most profitable domicile.

FDXAV8R

Dave Webb is no longer a friend to this pilot group and will probably end up working across the street as a vice president. Dave spent our money polling us on our opinion regarding the age 60 rule change and then went and did what he wanted to do anyway. Then he comes back and unilaterally changes the contract to allow our over 60 guys back. Before we ever supported this rule change we should have asked to specifically identify the full retirement age as 60 in the contract. We should have tried to protect the right to retire at 60 without and early retirement penalty in the future. Then we have this excess bid with a vacancy in every seat, in every type so Dave's buddies can go whereever they want speaks volumes about his character. Remember this is the same guy who spent our money and worked so hard to get us to accept this LOA. It seems like he has been working more for the company than for us. Let's get organized and get this POS out of office. I don't care if he is not running again or not, I want to recall the officers and get him out now. Our union took a cohesive (94% contract vote) pilot group and has splintered and divided us and moved us backwards while our corporation continues to make money. Furlough, excess bids, **** LOA, declining quality of life, unreasonable deviation banks, etc. Come on lets untangle this WEBB we are getting caught up in.

2Planker

While it is tempting to blame the company and management for our LOA, the truth of the matter is this. The blame lies squarely on the shoulders of our former NC Chairman, our current MEC Chairman and the group that pushed the hard sell, and last but not least, the apathetic 68% of those who voted "YES" on the LOA or chose not to vote at all while chanting "I don't care, I'm not going to bid it, it will never affect me, and even though I haven't read it I'll do what the mustache tells me to do and vote yes."

Unless you are one of the 32%er's who actually read the LOA and voted "NO" because it was so painfully obvious how inadequate it was, then you are to blame for our current situation. No one had to buy what the previous NC chairman and our current MEC Chairman were selling. Remember that next time you have a chance to vote for something that will most definitely affect every one of us.

Just another 32%er "Proponent of Hysteria"