FedEx - DH question
#22
What if only 1st class available?
If 1st class is all that is available when you book your deviation flight, do they pay up to accepted fare amount of the original flight, or the coach fare for the deviation flight you can only get a first class ticket for? Would extra bank be useable in this case?
Thanks
Thanks
#23
Send an e-mail to audit. They answer them and would like to solve this before the occurrence rather than after. You will find out whether it will go thru without incident. Hopefully it meets what we are authorized in the contract. If you don't get the answer you like and have doubt, call/e-mail ALPA.
That said--
I believe that in order for you to get the first class fare as the authorized fare for reimbursement, your actual flight (deviation or scheduled) must meet the parameters. 5 hrs or 11:30 duty authorizes first class. Otherwise the amount over coach would be classified as a personal expense no matter how much you have in your bank.
This is distinct from the class of fare that your scheduled DH accepted fare is based upon. The scheduled DH accepted/approved fare is based on what class of service is authorized for the scheduled DH. I don't know what happens when first class is sold out on the scheduled flight. Do we still get the first class fare for bank even though we are booked in coach? Not sure about this.
If the deviation DH is authorized a higher class of service than the scheduled DH, your bank does not jump up to first class for that DH. But you can still get reimbursed for first class on it if you have other, unused, bank monies available.
I've never done this so I am going on what limited knowledge I have. Next week there will be an FCIF outlawing it!
That said--
I believe that in order for you to get the first class fare as the authorized fare for reimbursement, your actual flight (deviation or scheduled) must meet the parameters. 5 hrs or 11:30 duty authorizes first class. Otherwise the amount over coach would be classified as a personal expense no matter how much you have in your bank.
This is distinct from the class of fare that your scheduled DH accepted fare is based upon. The scheduled DH accepted/approved fare is based on what class of service is authorized for the scheduled DH. I don't know what happens when first class is sold out on the scheduled flight. Do we still get the first class fare for bank even though we are booked in coach? Not sure about this.
If the deviation DH is authorized a higher class of service than the scheduled DH, your bank does not jump up to first class for that DH. But you can still get reimbursed for first class on it if you have other, unused, bank monies available.
I've never done this so I am going on what limited knowledge I have. Next week there will be an FCIF outlawing it!
Last edited by Gunter; 08-25-2008 at 11:29 AM.
#24
I find this almost, almost, humorous that this sort of discussions takes place here. I am sure your new hires are issued a contract. We have the same problem at WO that alot of folks dont take the time to know the contract. But this is especially humorous, cmon, how does this conversation enlighten the flying population on the state of the industry? It doesnt. This information is good for lazy, can't be bothered to read my contract, sort of purple folks.
This is some puke who hasnt bothered to read his contract.
For all of you non Purple types that find this thread constructive, please flame away.
Get a real forum,
WG
PS: I know, just don't click on it. But if I and alot of others take that approach the readership diminishes and the value of the website diminishes. Um, get a private forum to educate your own, and to discuss your own.
This is some puke who hasnt bothered to read his contract.
For all of you non Purple types that find this thread constructive, please flame away.
Get a real forum,
WG
PS: I know, just don't click on it. But if I and alot of others take that approach the readership diminishes and the value of the website diminishes. Um, get a private forum to educate your own, and to discuss your own.
Last edited by Worldguy; 08-25-2008 at 02:28 PM. Reason: taking precious bandwidth
#25
I find this almost, almost, humorous that this sort of discussions takes place here. I am sure your new hires are issued a contract. We have the same problem at WO that alot of folks dont take the time to know the contract. But this is especially humorous, cmon, how does this conversation enlighten the flying population on the state of the industry? It doesnt. This information is good for lazy, can't be bothered to read my contract, sort of purple folks.
This is some puke who hasnt bothered to read his contract.
For all of you non Purple types that find this thread constructive, please flame away.
Get a real forum,
WG
PS: I know, just don't click on it. But if I and alot of others take that approach the readership diminishes and the value of the website diminishes. Um, get a private forum to educate your own, and to discuss your own.
This is some puke who hasnt bothered to read his contract.
For all of you non Purple types that find this thread constructive, please flame away.
Get a real forum,
WG
PS: I know, just don't click on it. But if I and alot of others take that approach the readership diminishes and the value of the website diminishes. Um, get a private forum to educate your own, and to discuss your own.
#26
Gunter - thanks for the constructive post
Worldguy- I don't know who pi$sed in your oatmeal this morning, but you can take your sanctimonous BS and shove it where the sun don't shine. Yes, I can read the contract (and do), but nothing beats experience. If someone else at MY company has been burned by the legal-ize language of the DH section or OUR contract - I for one would like to hear it.
I don't know why we bother to label our posts with FedEx, apparently to Captains (!) at World, they read that as: "No one listens to my World-related posts, maybe these other guys will recognize my brilliance"
Hopefully we can get back to what had been a fairly informative thread...
D
Worldguy- I don't know who pi$sed in your oatmeal this morning, but you can take your sanctimonous BS and shove it where the sun don't shine. Yes, I can read the contract (and do), but nothing beats experience. If someone else at MY company has been burned by the legal-ize language of the DH section or OUR contract - I for one would like to hear it.
I don't know why we bother to label our posts with FedEx, apparently to Captains (!) at World, they read that as: "No one listens to my World-related posts, maybe these other guys will recognize my brilliance"
Hopefully we can get back to what had been a fairly informative thread...
D
#29
I find this almost, almost, humorous that this sort of discussions takes place here. I am sure your new hires are issued a contract. We have the same problem at WO that alot of folks dont take the time to know the contract. But this is especially humorous, cmon, how does this conversation enlighten the flying population on the state of the industry? It doesnt. This information is good for lazy, can't be bothered to read my contract, sort of purple folks.
This is some puke who hasnt bothered to read his contract.
For all of you non Purple types that find this thread constructive, please flame away.
Get a real forum,
WG
PS: I know, just don't click on it. But if I and alot of others take that approach the readership diminishes and the value of the website diminishes. Um, get a private forum to educate your own, and to discuss your own.
This is some puke who hasnt bothered to read his contract.
For all of you non Purple types that find this thread constructive, please flame away.
Get a real forum,
WG
PS: I know, just don't click on it. But if I and alot of others take that approach the readership diminishes and the value of the website diminishes. Um, get a private forum to educate your own, and to discuss your own.
That said, I think we have to give WG a little bit of a break. He's not used to dealing with a contract like ours that has the potential for varied interpretations by pilots or management.
As a former "World Guy" myself, I can attest to this. When you have portions of your contract dealing with things like duty day and flight time limits that just state: "See the FARs" , it might be difficult to appreciate the problems we occasionally encounter with contract interpretation.
Even with the occasional problem with our contract language, I'll take ours any day.
#30
layover during connection
On a related note, (sorry World dude, this isn't in our contract, so I have to ask... and quit reading FDX threads!)
Has anyone had experience taking a 24hr delay on a domestic connection deviation d/h? I'm looking to pick up the same leg 24 hrs later. Will global travel be able to book it that way or am I SOL?
Thanks
Has anyone had experience taking a 24hr delay on a domestic connection deviation d/h? I'm looking to pick up the same leg 24 hrs later. Will global travel be able to book it that way or am I SOL?
Thanks
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