FedEx- R24 1in7
#11
Always have at least 15 minutes to return the call, so the leash is at least 1+15
and, during Indoc, heard a story of a guy with an old jalopy that he would occasionally run of the road on the way to the AOC for a reserve trip to a place the wx was a bit worse than he wanted to fly to.
and, during Indoc, heard a story of a guy with an old jalopy that he would occasionally run of the road on the way to the AOC for a reserve trip to a place the wx was a bit worse than he wanted to fly to.
#13
Once again, those that sit on Reserve got hardly any considerations during the negotiations phase. Putting the onus on the crewmember to be responsible for VIPS notifications during the period away from scheduled activities, is unreasonable and you can bet that the other side of the Company does not have to be responsible for work notifications when they leave their cubicles for the week-end or personal day off.
#14
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Yeah, it's sure a hardship for those senior guys up in Anchorage (and at the other bases), who bid reserve all summer, so that they can spend their time fishing or golfing, to have to actually work for a small portion of the very large amount of money that they earn, while enjoying their "time off", by being required to check VIPS. What do you propose? Would you prefer that CRS call you in the middle of your "sleep time", just to let you know that you have a trip 7 hours from now? It's a sticky wicket, and perhaps making you responsible is the best way to actually crew a trip. Guys who spend their days sitting in cubicles, aren't relied upon to move the freight, or said another way, aren't viewed as "direct labor", and as such, their whereabouts is less important than yours. Especially when it comes to making a profit for the company. If their boss doesn't know where they are, it's his problem, so I wouldn't even bother worrying about it. Besides, when they are on their "days off", it's their time. When you're on reserve, you're still getting paid, and it's NOT your days off, even though it feels like them, if you live in domicile.
#15
He is talking about days off. (ie. Day before R24 starts and/or during 1 in 7) I expect when on reserve to check VIPS but not on DAYS OFF. I think it is BS.. Why can't they assign the trip and then make a quick phone call??? Takes just a few minutes/seconds and then everybody is on the same page. Simple... [ON DAYS OFF]
#16
JJ,
The amount a pilot is being used on reserve is completely irrelevant to this discussion. Why should a 1in7 on R24 be any different than a 1in7 on R 1.5? A day off should be just that...a day free from all duty. The answer to my originally posted question was answered. We signed off on it in our contract.
In addition, why is a reserve required to call scheds when he returns from a trip? Why can't he just check VIPS and go home if no assignment? Shouldn't it work both ways?
I believe TNflyboy makes a valid point that reserves don't get much consideration from our negotiating committee.
The amount a pilot is being used on reserve is completely irrelevant to this discussion. Why should a 1in7 on R24 be any different than a 1in7 on R 1.5? A day off should be just that...a day free from all duty. The answer to my originally posted question was answered. We signed off on it in our contract.
In addition, why is a reserve required to call scheds when he returns from a trip? Why can't he just check VIPS and go home if no assignment? Shouldn't it work both ways?
I believe TNflyboy makes a valid point that reserves don't get much consideration from our negotiating committee.
#17
The day prior to the first R24 day is when your call window starts, and your call window ends at the beginning of the last R day.
technically, every trip assignment in R24 could qualify as a 1 in 7. On the few times I've done R24, I've never pointed that out in hopes of having the last R day go away for 1 in 7.
Nothing says the scheduler's can't call you during your 1 in 7, you just aren't obligated to answer the phone. When they won't call you is if you've been relieved from rest.
Let's be realistic, it just isn't that big of a hardship to take a look at VIPs (or call VIPS) to see if you have any notifications at 4 in the afternoon to see if you need to jump into work the next morning. Or, take a look at it in the morning to see if you need to jump into work for the night sort.
It is a legalism, at some point in time the scheduler has to officially release you from "duty" if you have 7 or more R days in a row. If he doesn't do that, then the last R day goes away w/pay.
technically, every trip assignment in R24 could qualify as a 1 in 7. On the few times I've done R24, I've never pointed that out in hopes of having the last R day go away for 1 in 7.
Nothing says the scheduler's can't call you during your 1 in 7, you just aren't obligated to answer the phone. When they won't call you is if you've been relieved from rest.
Let's be realistic, it just isn't that big of a hardship to take a look at VIPs (or call VIPS) to see if you have any notifications at 4 in the afternoon to see if you need to jump into work the next morning. Or, take a look at it in the morning to see if you need to jump into work for the night sort.
It is a legalism, at some point in time the scheduler has to officially release you from "duty" if you have 7 or more R days in a row. If he doesn't do that, then the last R day goes away w/pay.
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