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Old 08-09-2008, 09:48 PM
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Holy cow, thanks for sharing! I can only imagine trying to climb out of that thing.
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I got spanked by some CK guys for posting that over at PPW.
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As you should have been!

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ygtbsm. welcome to reality. people find it interesting.
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Originally Posted by willflyforcash
ygtbsm. welcome to reality. people find it interesting.
You mean like the Gossip colum's of the news papers and The National Inquirer?

Go attend a NTSB Crash Investigation course and tell them your theory of immediately publishing pictures and information of an investigation that they are trying to conduct.

If all this stuff gets/leaks out immediately, what is the point of the NTSB publishing their official findings? All the people that are interested in the first place have already made up their mind from a lot of the BS that gets posted on the internet by anonymous so-called experts!

Agreed, people want to know. But they will tend to believe and make up their mind by the first things they see and read. Especially on these boards. Just read through all the posts on these accidents. Some of it is pretty funny. But the reality of it, it does take away from the actual investigation. The other reality, it is not always as it seems. The investigations reveal a lot more than is posted on this site.

As mentioned before, this kind of thing can prevent others, such as Union's from being a party to another investigation. The NTSB does not like it when people can't keep sensitive information in check and will just deny any outside party access to an investigation. As a Union, that is something we don't want to have denied.
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Just for the record, I took down my posting of the picture link over at PPW. I totally understand the CK guys' point. Good luck guys.
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Orion,
First, these are pictures, they are not findings of an investigation and are not privileged. Second, these were not posted by Runner, they were posted by someone on Airliners.net.

These pictures are no different than pictures taken by a newspaper or television statement. Facts are facts (weather at the time of the mishap, photos of the wreckage in place, etc) and FINDINGS are privileged. It isn't like someone posting "as of now, the investigators are thinking that the mishap was caused by....."
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Originally Posted by LivingInMEM
Orion,
First, these are pictures, they are not findings of an investigation and are not privileged. Second, these were not posted by Runner, they were posted by someone on Airliners.net.

These pictures are no different than pictures taken by a newspaper or television statement. Facts are facts (weather at the time of the mishap, photos of the wreckage in place, etc) and FINDINGS are privileged. It isn't like someone posting "as of now, the investigators are thinking that the mishap was caused by....."
I don't even kow what I'm looking at here - but pictures CAN BE privileged if they point to certain deliberations being undertaken by the investigation team. Doesn't look to be the case in this picture - but I just wanted to make that fact known.

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