Omni to FedEx
#11
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Posts: 28
One other thing to consider right now is the stability of a job move. If you are sitting pretty on your current seniority list and not in threat of being furloughed, I would think long and hard about going to the bottom of a list, especially at a small company like Omni (no offense intended to the Omni folks). Paying the bills right now seems to be the smart thing to do.
#12
New Hire
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: MD-11 Capt
Posts: 5
Tumbleweed is doing the right thing by asking questions and doing a little research before making any decision. I would think that QOL would become an issue at least. The difference between flying for a scheduled airline and a non scheduled airline is huge. The other posters are right in their support of turbine PIC time, IMHO. If you think that being away for a 14 day trip is bad, keep in mind that junior guys can also be out back-to back and be gone 28 days or more. This is a volatile industry to say the least, especially right now. If you are flying left seat and making enough to salt a little away for the bad times and furloughs, I'd stay and keep doing it until the window opens to make the jump directly. Just my 2 cents.
Good luck in whatever you decide!
Good luck in whatever you decide!
#13
New Hire
Joined APC: May 2007
Position: MD11 FO --> DC8 FE
Posts: 1
I know FedEx won't be hiring too soon but would it be prudent for a captain at a regional to go to Omni as a stepping stone for FedEx to get a DC10/757 type? Are there any ex-Omni guys at FedEx that could vouch for that. A buddy of mine just got hired there but I know nothing about Omni except what little is available on APC. Any insider info would be greatly appreciated.
I was a senior pilot at Omni who left for UPS. I would not recommend leaving a Captain job at at regional for Omni, unless you think you will be forced to leave. However, I would not have left Omni for anyone but UPS, Fedex, or Southwest.
The best thing you can do to get a job a Fedex is build PIC turbine time and make friends with as many Fedex pilots and/or military pilots as you can. I didn't know any, so I couldn't even get an interview there. It will be a while before they start hiring again.
For a short time, it was advantageous to have heavy, international experience to get a job at UPS (probably what got me hired.) I don't think that will be a major factor if they start hiring again.
Omni is one of the most profitable airlines out there now. Unfortunately for the employees, the profits mostly go to the private owners. Your paycheck may be small, but it won't bounce. They have never furloughed, (they have fired the senior 727 pilots and selectively recalled to the DC10, but it wasn't technically a furlough). If they think they need to furlough, they will in a heartbeat. The only really good thing about Omni is being home based. There is currently no contract, but the pilots voted in the teamsters last year and they are negotiating. They ought to have something in a couple of years. The guarantee is 60 hours / 18 days including travel to and from home. 95 percent of the lines are reserve, and if you get a line there is no guarantee you will actually fly it. There is no duty rig, no trip rig, nothing. You can expect to fly 58 hours in 11 days, and then spend the next 7 days sitting reserve in Atlanta for per diem. They can force you to work 4 extra overtime days anytime without regard to seniority. So as a junior pilot, you can expect to work the last 18 days of this month, the first 18 days of next month, and 4 extra days for a total of 40 days straight. Not good for a quality family life.
Omni is kind of like Uhaul - an adventure in flying for not a lot of money. However in the current airline environment, they don't look too bad.
#14
Thank You
ElHaynes... I really appreciate such an informative post. Without the aid of a crystal ball, it's nice to be able to get some insider information on companies one is unfamiliar with. I guess it makes a lot more sense right now to sit tight in the left seat here until a little more dust settles. Unfortunately, it looks like that will be a while. Thanks again!
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: just a co-pilot
Posts: 194
Hey Tumbleweed,
Currently on the 75 here at OAI. Elhaynes hit the nail on the head as far as life style goes. If you have a wife and kids whose life you wish to be highly involved in and see more than 1 week a month then I suggest you stay put. It is a lot of fun here, but it will get frustrating quick if you are trying to spend a lot of time at home. The information that people have posted here is accurate, reliable and current. We are profitable, checks are clearing, and growth is happening. They own all the DC-10's which is a large part of the success around here. The 2 75's are leased by the hour. If you are an RJ captain, you might make captain quick around here. The learning curve will still be steep though. At the moment upgrade is based entirely on performance and merit. That will probably change once a contract is in place. Good luck on your decision. Feel free to ask about anything else.
SE
Currently on the 75 here at OAI. Elhaynes hit the nail on the head as far as life style goes. If you have a wife and kids whose life you wish to be highly involved in and see more than 1 week a month then I suggest you stay put. It is a lot of fun here, but it will get frustrating quick if you are trying to spend a lot of time at home. The information that people have posted here is accurate, reliable and current. We are profitable, checks are clearing, and growth is happening. They own all the DC-10's which is a large part of the success around here. The 2 75's are leased by the hour. If you are an RJ captain, you might make captain quick around here. The learning curve will still be steep though. At the moment upgrade is based entirely on performance and merit. That will probably change once a contract is in place. Good luck on your decision. Feel free to ask about anything else.
SE
#19
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: just a co-pilot
Posts: 194
Upgrade is based entirely on merit and performance, atleast until a contract is in place. So if a person shows up, learns what they need to know, doesn't make anyone of any importance mad, then that person shouldn't have a problem upgrading. Or you could have worked at ATA and go straight to the left seat, that's another option too. Usually being a good boy is most expeditious way to the left side of the cockpit.
#20
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 219
yes the pay could be better but hopefully it will improve but the company is making money - not alot of airlines can say that
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