FR8Hauler

I only know what I have been told by people who were involved directly in the process. Even though we had done our part for the 3 months or whatever the nebulous amount of time is, the MEC did not want to fight this fight because they did not think it was worth the effort. I understand why they would make a choice like this if it were not for the fact all of the ANC crew force refused to fly this pairing in support of our SIG. Like I stated before, the whole process does not work in the long run but it is painful for the company to deal with a "sticky booger" that no-one will touch each month. My opinion is that anything that will make waves with the company the union leadership tip toes around.

MaxKts

Ditto

skypine27

Bingo. Our union leadership needs to be replaced by human beings that actually have spines.

AerisArmis

I don't think DW sides with the company on much, if anything. That said, he sure as heck doesn't side with us either. DW has demonstrated time after time that he always sides with DW.

PastV1

That time has nothing to do with the fact the pairing may or may not be in open time or picked up in open time.

ps. the 3 months part of the above post.

The 3 month part has only to do with the fact the pairing can not be "non-disputed" for 3 months then suddenly become "disputed"....

FreightDawgyDog

"My opinion is that anything that will make waves with the company the union leadership tip toes around."

I agree with you. My opinion is that it never made sense, fiscaly or otherwise, when for the first time in FedEx history a bid award was canceled right after DW got his way with retro. It sure seems to me that events leading up to that, the FDA LOA especially, and anything major that might make some waves with the company, have ben tiptoed around by the union. The excess bids showed just how inept and costly canceling that bid was. It made as much sense as the LOA the union pushed for us to pass and the lack of spinal matter in other issues. Wait until we get hit with a BLG cut we never vote for as the final proof that something is fishy in the state of Denmark.

HDawg

Only two things in this world smell like salmon, and one of them is salmon...

FR8Hauler

Poor choice of words on my part. You are 100% correct.

frozenboxhauler

After watching the latest FlightLine CD, I've been gargling for the past two hours and I can still taste it.
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nitefr8r

You actually watched it? It's my coaster for my mug of Kona coffee this morning!

As for the MEC not fighting issues: contractually when it comes to disputed pairings they're sort of in a bind, there's a well defined resolution process that we may not win (and haven't on a few). On contractual issues it's another story. The union (and company) can always start the grievance process, get it to the board level and then hold things in abeyance. Although the end result (acquiescence) is the same, it preserves the issue so that it could be brought up again later with a factually better case and not argued against as past practice.

When my wife was head of the grievance committee at UAL ALPA, she had a large number of such cases: and some had been there for decades (let's see how relevant was a grievance relating to DC-8-50 series freighters in the late 90's?). Some were cleaned up and some were left alone as they still had contractual relevance, but it's neither necessary nor desirable to bring every case through to a full resolution before a system board.