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Old 07-17-2008, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Just to close the loop. It was supposed to be a RAT. After a call CRS and crew control, I was removed and re-assigned as a RAT. I'll turn a 73 CH trip into 91 CH with a phone call anyday.
I'm sure scheduling was just about to call and get that straightened out - they only made the change two weeks ago. I should have been a little more patient.

Thanks for the help everyone.
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Yeah, they were just about to change it for you when you called......

Just out of curiosity - on your pay summary, what pay code does it have for that trip now?

If it is any of the following:

Trips held in the following pay codes are eligible for disruption pay: TRP, AST, SOF, SWP, M/U, MUV, MUD, MUS and CIA

Trips held in the following pay codes are eligible for extra duty period pay: TRP, AST, SOF, SWP, M/U, MUV, MUD, MUS and CIA

you might be eligible for some extra - yours is probably RAT, so not eligible (just a guess).

at least you get the 125% which ain't bad.

just to keep in my bag of clues for next time this happens to me.

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Old 07-17-2008, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Just to close the loop. It was supposed to be a RAT. After a call CRS and crew control, I was removed and re-assigned as a RAT. I'll turn a 73 CH trip into 91 CH with a phone call anyday.
I'm sure scheduling was just about to call and get that straightened out - they only made the change two weeks ago. I should have been a little more patient.

Thanks for the help everyone.
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18CHs buys a lot of beer! I'll have a Sierra Nevada, or whatever the other guys are having!
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11
Yeah, they were just about to change it for you when you called......

Just out of curiosity - on your pay summary, what pay code does it have for that trip now?
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It says "RAT" now, so no disruption.

I'll be buying beers for the F/O who emailed me with the heads up. Based on the euro rate maybe one of us will get a buzz off $2500 in beer.

Off to Deutschland Morgen.
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TRP --> AST, if within CBA rules

otherwise,

TRP --> SUB --> RAT
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KnightFlyer
TRP --> AST, if within CBA rules

otherwise,

TRP --> SUB --> RAT
anyone know what SOF code is?

i've had SON (swap on) when I traded a trip out of open time, but never had SOF?

and while we're at it, what's SWP?

anyone know where these codes are defined? (they're not defined in the CBA that I could find?)
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Go to FDX ALPA website,
under quick links, click on "newhires"(left side of page)
click on "New Hire Guide"(right side of page).

It's not every code that I've ever seen...But, it's pretty good.

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Appendix A: CMS Codes
Following are some codes that are used in the various crew management screens. The meanings may vary slightly depending on which screen you’re viewing.
AHI: Assigned High Minimums
ALO: Assigned Low Minimums
ARP: Airport Replacement Pay
ASN: Training Trip/Line Check
AST: Assigned Same Trip
AVA: Advanced Volunteer Assignment
BLG: Bid Line Guarantee
BMP: Bumped from trip with pay
CAR: Carryover
CIA: Assigned trip to make up lost carry in conflict credit- with pay
CIC: Carry in conflict- without pay
CON: Council meeting - removed with pay
CXL: Trip canceled/rescheduled - removed with pay
DED: Deviate Draft
DEM: Deviate Makeup
DEP: Deviate Per Diem Only
DER: Deviate Reserve
DES: Deviate Substitution
DEV: Deviate Scheduled
DIF: Death in family
DIS: Disciplinary - removed without pay
DRF: Draft/Reverse Seniority
DRP: Dropped trip - removed without pay
DVL: Deviate Volunteer
EMG: Personal Emergency - removed without pay
IPF: International Pay Flown
JRY: Jury duty - removed with pay
LGL: Illegal for assignment - removed with pay
LOA: Leave of absence
M/U: Make Up
MGT: Management crew member - 16 hr duty w/o pay
MUE: Make Up Emergency
MUS: Make Up Sick
N/S: No Show
NOQ: Not Qualified
PDO: Per diem Only
PRJ: Special Projects
RER: Removed from trip without pay
RMG: Removed by management with pay
RPA: Per Diem only plus displacement pa
RSV: Reserve
SCK: Sick leave
S/P: Show Pay
SKR: Sick for PDO bump
SOF: Swap with open time
SPC: Special Projects - removed from trip with pay
SWP: Swap with another pilot
TNG: Training away from base
TOD: Training on day off
TRN: Training. Used for IOE - paid credit hours as training pay. Or, removed for recurrent training, with pay.
VAC: Vacation
VLT: Volunteer
XRP: Removed to reassign pilot
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What happens if you turn down a RAT trip? Are you then able to elect OTP?
I have a trip in August which has been extended 24 hours but have not been notified of anything. I do need to drop this trip rather than fly it because the day it extended into is a day I need off.

P.S. Yes, I have been reading the contract, but I'm not a lawyer.
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Excellent!! Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Seasick Sailor
What happens if you turn down a RAT trip? Are you then able to elect OTP?
I have a trip in August which has been extended 24 hours but have not been notified of anything. I do need to drop this trip rather than fly it because the day it extended into is a day I need off.

P.S. Yes, I have been reading the contract, but I'm not a lawyer.
Before you can get a RAT trip your oringal trip must be dropped and you are supposed to be put in Substitution.

Then CRS is supposed to notify you and "Offer" you a RAT. At that time you have the option of accepting or declining.

If you decline you are pay protected fo 2 Bid periods but will need to make up time.
If you decline and accept OTP, you go into open time (Good Luck) and try to find another trip. Then you go to Make up tab and check OTP. You are supposed to get head of the line priviledges for that trip. As previously Stated, OTP pays 125% but you get no further Contract protections, Disruptions, Xtra duty pay etc.

The problem is CRS often tends to speed up the process. If your Origninal Trip is Cnx or revised outside contractual parameters, CRS just drops the trip and immediately assigns you a RAT trip which is often the very same trip with subtle differences. Often the crew members nevers knows this occurs until he/she checks VIPS. I personally never check VIPS once I get next months schedule!

Crew schedules is really supposed to Call you and tell you that your Trip has been Cancelled and notify you that you are in SUB, If they have a RAT trip already waiting to assign you, they are Supposed to aks you if you want it?

Contractual Grey area seems to allow VIPS as a secondary notification, but I rarely check VIPS or my Schedule once I get it. Theoretically, if you were assigned a RAT trip and CRS never called you and you never checked your schedule, you could decline said trip one hour prior to departure when you preformed your check in an were "Notified" Via Vips.

Long winded but hI hope this answers your question.
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Thanks Redeye,

Your explanation does help, but do I have to pick up an OTP trip at the same time that I declined the RAT trip or can I pick up OTP makeup trips over the next two bid periods. I want to have my ducks in a row before I call CRS.

BTW, I never was notified even by VIPS and the trip shows a pay code of TRP.
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