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Old 07-12-2008, 11:59 AM
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I wonder if it will "go senior?"

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Old 07-12-2008, 12:17 PM
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do you actually think we'd fly those those airplanes?

don't you think it will be something along the lines of Morningstar in Canada and Who Flung Doo Airlines or whoever they are carrying our frieght intra-China?

Seems like a similar setup, or can someone enlighten us regarding just how FDX ALPA will hold management's feet to the fire in regard to scope?

And yes, this explains the sudden reversal of the Paris Bus base plans.

I see even more stagnation in the future.
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Originally Posted by Timeoff2fish
do you actually think we'd fly those those airplanes?

don't you think it will be something along the lines of Morningstar in Canada and Who Flung Doo Airlines or whoever they are carrying our frieght intra-China?

Seems like a similar setup, or can someone enlighten us regarding just how FDX ALPA will hold management's feet to the fire in regard to scope?

And yes, this explains the sudden reversal of the Paris Bus base plans.

I see even more stagnation in the future.
I dont know about FDX management, but I can almost guarentee you that UPS would be thinking along those same lines you just pointed out. The question is what can you legally fly intra-europe........
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:56 PM
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Not raining on your parade here, but there isn't a legal way to integrate a European air carrier with a US one. If it could be done, DHL would have done it long ago. I think the gent that was talking about the Chinese operators has it pegged. There is about to be a huge consolidation here in freight dog world. And it's not going to be a good thing for anyone who drives the bus.
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Originally Posted by viktorbravo
I dont know about FDX management, but I can almost guarentee you that UPS would be thinking along those same lines you just pointed out. The question is what can you legally fly intra-europe........

We're flying all we can legally fly in Europe with volumes factored in.
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...Who Flung Doo Airlines...
Are they hiring? Sooo, what's the QoL over there? Can any WhoFlungDoo'ers throw their stories at us?
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Can any WhoFlungDoo'ers throw their stories at us?
And see what sticks?
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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
And see what sticks?
And what hits the fan !

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Old 07-12-2008, 07:09 PM
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Looks like UPS might be interested as well...

Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

FedEx May Buy Dutch TNT to Add Europe Parcel Delivery, FT Says

By Jeroen Molenaar and Sarah Thompson

July 12 (Bloomberg) -- FedEx Corp., the second-largest U.S. package-shipping company, is in preliminary talks to take over TNT NV, the Financial Times reported. Buying the Dutch operator would make FedEx the No. 2 express-delivery service in Europe.

Rising fuel costs and an economic decline revived merger discussion between FedEx and TNT, the U.K. newspaper said today, without citing anyone. Pieter Schaffels, a spokesman for TNT, and Jess Bunn of FedEx both declined to comment when contacted by telephone and e-mail today.

A buyout ``makes sense,'' said Philip Scholte, an analyst at Rabo Securities in Amsterdam. ``You just link the two networks together.''

Memphis, Tennessee-based FedEx last month posted its first quarterly loss in 11 years and said earnings will fall, as jet fuel prices increased and the slowing U.S. economy prompted customers to seek cheaper ways of shipping goods.

An acquisition of TNT, which said in June it coped with rising fuel prices by transporting as much as possible by road, would boost FedEx's parcel-delivery sales outside the U.S. by 144 percent to $17.6 billion, more than half its total revenue.

FedEx's market capitalization was $22.9 billion at Friday's closing price of $73.94, after the stock had fallen more than 17 percent this year. TNT, valued at 7.02 billion euros ($11.2 billion), has slid almost 35 percent, to 18.51 euros.

``If TNT stock stays as low as this, it's not surprising these kind of rumors hit the market,'' said Scholte, who has a ``buy'' recommendation on the company and a share price estimate of 36 euros. He said investors probably wouldn't accept a takeover premium of 30 percent, which he called a typical offer, adding that the shares may fetch as much as 40 euros apiece.

Competition

An acquisition of TNT would increase competition with DHL Express, a unit of Deutsche Post AG, Europe's biggest mail carrier. In May Deutsche Post teamed up with United Parcel Service Inc., which ranks first in the U.S. package delivery business, to help restore earnings at the unprofitable DHL division.

UPS, which on June 24 reduced its second-quarter profit forecast on rising fuel costs and a cooling U.S. economy, may also be interested in buying TNT, Scholte said.

Hoofddorp-based TNT, also the Netherlands' largest mail service, sold its logistics and freight-management businesses to expand mail and parcel-delivery services in Europe, Latin America and Asia. The company, which traces its origins to the 1752 founding of the Dutch postal service, gets 2 to 3 percent of its 10.9 billion-euro ($17.3 billion) sales from the U.S. each year.

Last year, FedEx had sales of $37.95 billion, boosted by shipping goods such as music CD's and computer games from Sony Corp., the world's second-largest consumer-electronics maker, and the colorful plastic clogs with holes made by Crocs Inc..

To contact the reporters on this story: Sarah Thompson in London at [email protected]; To contact the reporter on this story: Jeroen Molenaar in Amsterdam [email protected]

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Originally Posted by FlyByCable
We're flying all we can legally fly in Europe with volumes factored in.
So UPS hasn't adjusted routings to make a route illegal for us to fly due to cabotage restrictions?
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